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Should this be banned?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3577112.stm
Aren't stereotypes based on truth though? Maybe it was true that SOME black men were bad fathers in the past, or were lazy.
Would this programme seek to further spread or advance negative stereotypes of black men?
Aren't stereotypes based on truth though? Maybe it was true that SOME black men were bad fathers in the past, or were lazy.
Would this programme seek to further spread or advance negative stereotypes of black men?
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It depends totally on how it has been done.
Racists always see what they want to see. The people that this show seems to be wanting to help change, black men and the black community, aren't going to listen to some middle classed white guy with a rod up his arse. It's an important issue, and one that needs to be addressed by the right person. Let's see how it goes
There are serious issues ot be addressed in the black community, because social involvement is dangerously low. I don't know very mcuh about the black community, but there does seem to be an awful lot of lawlessness and extreme homophobia in the culture, which is a serious issue.
Someone always has to be offended in this sodding country. fair criticism always seems to get lost in the barrage of "disgusted" people.
*sigh*
Oi! Are you saying that all black people have their heads up their arses?! That's a bit racist isn't it?
:crazyeyes racism my backside.
Nope, I meant some PC people have their heads up their arses. But I'm sure some of these PC people will be black, asian, caucasian and so on...
Sorry, I was actually being sacastic, and totally agree with your original point.
Homophobia exists in other parts of British society other than blacks!
If he's criticising black men, then he has a point. Black men HAVE in the past been noted as being bad fathers!
No-one is denying this. Do you have to shout the whole time?
You read as if you are shouting because you use exclaimation marks so much.
How do you mean? Or did you miss out a 'not'?
Exclamation marks are fun! If you read the boards user guide, it says writing in capital letters is classed as shouting, so therefore exclamation marks are just to provide vigorous emphasis, or something.
And I don't think it should be banned straight off, but it should be checked thoroughly by a multi-race board of censors etc to make sure that it will not incite racial hatred etc.
I would consider exclaimation marks either as emphasis, or as a raised voice, depending on the sentance. In your example it's only emphasis, for some reason, whenever Kaptin Pikarrrd posts, it seems like he has to shout to make his point. Personally I try to avoid them in this forum, but that's because of my style.
Perhaps checking for inciting racial hatred would be a more productive course of action.
Good point, well made.
Good points.
Personally I think what is often left out of documentaries like this is the class issue. Black Britons are mainly working class, issues involving crime, fatherhood and educational attainment are occuring similairly in working class white and asian communities.
Focussing on the problems of one racial group rather than all those effected is divisive and causes resentment. Its this sort of scenario which pushes thoses that feel ignored into the arms of racial or religious extremism.
Maybe there's more to it than being working class?
Thats quite a generalisation, Black isnt Black per say, Southern Africans tend to dislike Northern Africans, both being 'Black'.
True, but you could say the same for "the white community" as well.
btw - there is no one "black community". There are lots of "black communities", same as there are lots of different white communitites.
Exactly.
True. There is definitely more than one factor involved, what I'm saying is too often the focus is too narrow. These types of programmes are watched by people who will form personal opinion on their content. The other issues need to be focussed on as well, IMO
I've seen a lot of the different areas which the documentary/series covers (please excuse the grammar) and I think it would be very interesting to watch. Of course it occurs in all communities, but perhaps someone else will cover the other communities at another point. I'm sure the different communities vary.
Yes, in the same way that Africans tend to dislike West Indian people. Which is why I don't understand the term "black community" because, as stated by Blagsta, there are many different black communities in the same way that there are many white communities and Asian communities.
If your colour is your defining feature you've got something seriously fucked in your head.
Yes, we can still dislike the french.
Not really. I just means you lack any personality whatsoever.