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This is a site upon which the details of opponents of the extreme right are posted.
This site was recently reffered to (by BNP members) on the BBC Panorama documentery as a site upon which details were printed of 'Reds that need twatting'.
Any thoughts on this one
This is a site upon which the details of opponents of the extreme right are posted.
This site was recently reffered to (by BNP members) on the BBC Panorama documentery as a site upon which details were printed of 'Reds that need twatting'.
Any thoughts on this one
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Renzo, what will you do now? Your pics are all over the place on this site
I think the nazis need twatting as much as the reds. They are all extremists even though they think they are different. Frankly I think we should just ignore their prejudiced bull. They might go away.
Im not a 'commie'
Just cos my views are somewhat left wing that doesnt make me one
You Fascist
Edited to add: Oh Shit
Yes, you're in deep shit.
Theing is, Redwatch probably have a point. A lot of the far left could benefit from a good hiding.
No human being deserves being punished for their political views, however much we disagree with them. The only argument is whether a fascist constitutes a human being- many people happen to believe that anyone who thinks people of other races as inferior immediately ceases to be a human being.
No other ideology or political leaning comes close to the utter evilness and inhuman monstrosity fascism-racism involves. No one. The fascists-racists should count themselves lucky they're not exterminated like the sub-human cunts they are. I don’t think they should be harmed or killed for their views as they probably qualify as human beings- just. But I perfectly understand others who think different…
Not strictly, of course not. But the far-left are just as dubious as the far-right, if not more so.
The point I was making was that the "red" websites set up to attack the far-right haven't ever bneen criticised on here. And I find it strange that everyone has neglected to note that Redwatch was set up in order to combat the Communist targeting of far-right people, and those peoples' family and friends.
I won't say that it has never happened. All sorts of things happen to every one. But such attacks must be rarer than a Tottenham League championship.
Racist attacks on "lefties", blacks, Asians, foreigners, asylum seekers and homosexuals are on the other hand daily occurrences. Murders of such groups by racist scumbags are actually a regular occurrence.
As I said, different league to anything else.
They should count themselves lucky they're not hunted down and exterminated like the vermin they are. Or perhaps castrated (a favourite trick of their hero Adolph Hitler) so they cannot produce offspring and indoctrinate them in the world of evil and hatred these people live in.
The world would certainly be a much better place for it.
Well the honour part made me laugh.
A friend of mine got called in to the police station because she appeared on a site like this... and what did she do?
Well an anti-war protest. :rolleyes:
Racists are people too!
Aye... they're both as annoying as each other. It's one thing holding an ideal and speaking out about it... I mean isn't that what freedom of speech is all about?
But it's another thing beating somebody up, or whatever for their political views.
What happened to my post? If Kermit can post this, why was mine deleted?
And no one heard of AFA?
http://www.antifa.org.uk/
Please justify this statement.
And this one.
A somewhat hypocrital argument...
You say noone should be punished for their views.
->Except fascists (i.e. people with opinions different to yours).
You say that Racism is the most inherently evil belief-set because they think that other races, other human beings, are inferior.
->Except you think that people who hold a certain type of belief are automatically inferior and deserve to be punished for their views.
he said this:
The only argument is whether a fascist constitutes a human being- many people happen to believe that anyone who thinks people of other races as inferior immediately ceases to be a human being.
Yeah? What I said innit?
But I certainly understand- though not condone- those who think differently and who believe direct action against the scumbags is the only way forward.
Simple as.
AFA no longer exist and haven't since the BNP gave up on street activity.
Ultra left - violent revolution of the proletariat - example USSR. Over 20-30 million Russians killed in the resulting civil war. 200 milion people living under a dictatorship for nearly a century. Invasion of other sovereign nations. Leninism , Stalinism, collectivism, Private property essentially abolished, communities destroyed, ancient organisations annihilated, purges, executions and eventual dictatorship. Then a massive and expensive Cold War with the West which probabl killed upwards of 5 million people. Police state, no personal freedom etc. Lets not forget China, but im not gonna summarise that one.
Ultra right - extreme nationalism- Elected democratically- example Nazi Germany - Mass purges - perhaps 10 million killed in death camps. Invasion of other countries. World war in which (in the European theater) as many as 30 million people were killed. Police state, no personal freedom etc.
Well, they both look remakably similar, dont they!
Both extremes are equally hate filled and odious, neither improve the lives of their citizens one jot.
You don't really understand politics, to be frank. The far left values liberty and social, racial and economic equality as the main tenets of their outlook. The founding of communism in eastern europe was based on those principles outlined by Marx et al, but was corrupted chiefly by Stalin to form soviet-style 'communism'.
To consider Hitler as "far-right" is also misleading. Hitler was first and foremost a racialist - he believed in a hierarchy of races - and his outlook was pretty much based on that theory.
You can't consider Hitler "far-right" and Stalin "far-left" - it doesn't work like that.
I am comparing he results of each type of government. Simplest way to do it. Lenin was as bad as Stalin. If you remember your history you'll know that Lenin founded the cheka and advocated class warfare.
Hitler was a facist. Why dont you read Mein Kamph and tell me he wasnt.
You definately can, and comparing each of their regimes ultimately proved that there was very little difference between the 2, they both resulted in horrific life for their people and did irriversible damage to the world.
Let me put it like this, the terms "far left" and "far right" don't fully apply to either system of government. The political spectrum (far left - left - centre - right - far right) doesn't cover Stalinist communism or NS Germany. Authoritarianism (such as Stalinism) is alien to true Marxist/leftist political philosophy, whilst state-controlled economics (such as fascism and national socialism, which contrary to your assertion are not one and the same system) is the very antithesis of the right wing (which is in fact based on economic liberalism...ie. unfettered market forces).