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Hands off our honours system!
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The Labour-run public administration committee's review of the honours system is completely ridiculous. Surely "modernising" such an ancient institution is a contradiction in terms.
Stupid politically correct idea No. 1: Removing the word "Empire" from titles. This is another of Labour's pro-European, anti-British ideas. So we don't have much of an empire anymore, but surely the glories of our past can be remembered in the titles of some of our honours?
Stupid politically correct idea No. 2: Removing the titles "Sir" and "Dame". Knights have been around since medieval times, although these days they are more likely to be celebrities than military officers. Why get rid of them now?
Labour is slowly eroding British institutions that have been around for hundreds of years. First it was hereditary peers, then it was the Lord Chancellor, now its the turn of the Knights. If this rot isn't stopped now it could end with the abolition of the monarchy itself.
I do hope the government desn't follow the advice of this committee and dumb down the honours system, because I'd quite like one for myself one day.
Stupid politically correct idea No. 1: Removing the word "Empire" from titles. This is another of Labour's pro-European, anti-British ideas. So we don't have much of an empire anymore, but surely the glories of our past can be remembered in the titles of some of our honours?
Stupid politically correct idea No. 2: Removing the titles "Sir" and "Dame". Knights have been around since medieval times, although these days they are more likely to be celebrities than military officers. Why get rid of them now?
Labour is slowly eroding British institutions that have been around for hundreds of years. First it was hereditary peers, then it was the Lord Chancellor, now its the turn of the Knights. If this rot isn't stopped now it could end with the abolition of the monarchy itself.
I do hope the government desn't follow the advice of this committee and dumb down the honours system, because I'd quite like one for myself one day.
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lord chancellor should have been kept as theres better ways of reorganising the top of the judicary
and on these titles, yeh i thinks stupid, they only titles, apparantly its racist to have 'empire' in a title, so yeh its jsut part of a pointless attempt to redo this country in labours image
Shoot the royal family too.
and dont go into one about the monarchy please!!!!!
All the other empires were exactly the same, are we going to stop teaching kids about the Roman Empire in case it offends someone? The British Empire was also the first to abolish slavery, yes they did some things that aren't accpeptable now but they were different times.
why are so many people afraid of change?
come on ...sir mick heroin addict cocaine abuser jagger!
sir dope head paul mcartney!
they honour these people but don't even respect their freedom of choice. it's a bloody farce.
I think it's very admirable to aknowledge people who do good works, but it can be done in ways other than a stupid title which no one (well no one I know) credits anyway.
There are other awards ceremonies which reward heroes aren't there? Sure I saw one on This Morning (I never said I was highbrow!) a while ago where they allowed people to nominate local heroes...anyone know the thing I mean? Anyway it seemed to be a great idea because people who do the really good, "heroic" things might not be discovered unless they were brought to light by their fellow peasants :rolleyes:
As for its connotations with the British Empire, I think they're a negative thing...regardless of Blair's merciless drive to become a European player. As turlough said, it takes you back to shameful things in our nation's past. We should be able to be proud of our home without harping on about (arguably) the triumphs of the past, and able to aknowledge good deeds in a more up-to-date way.
The empire should be removed from the name, not because it has connotations of slavery and repression, but because it's non-existant. The British, the English in particular are so hung up on former glories (1966 anyone?). We should live in the present and look to the future, in ourselves and as a nation.
However, I think keeping the titles is important.
Yeah, or a pound and a hundred park benches. And then I could tour the country sleeping on my achievements...and doing more good deeds of course, possibly for bandstands.
and the honours system ...i mentioned jagger and Mcartney ...both known criminals ...but they still get the honours ...it's a farce.
so cut the crap and have a look at what you seeeed.
Basically without the simple pleasures in life we simply become consuming machines. You're a slave to money then you die. If I wanted that I would live in the USA! Frankly I'm glad to be born in a country that has ancient traditions. Aristocracy, castles, cream teas, village fetes, it all adds up to a rich heritage we should be proud of.
I'm digressing here, but its my thread and I'll go off topic if I want to.
Sometimes I think I was born 100 years too late. I yearn for a Britain of village society and churches and respect for authority. Unfortunately its rapidly turning into an "every man for himself" consumerist society where as J said people are "in it for themselves with no kind regard to others prosperity or wellbeing"
1. Codswallop. There may no longer be an Empire, and what the empire represented may not always have been the best. But we should never deny our history.
2. The only knighthoods which should go are those given to politicians and civil servants. People should be nominated y the public for such awards. Does Sir Peregrine Chinless-Wonder deserve a knighthood more than Dave Charity-Worker?
Apparently "Lord" Jeffrey Archer demanded people addressed him as such, instead of Mr. Archer. That disgusting crooks like him can hold such titles and demand they're addressed to in such way shows that the system needs an update pronto.