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  • FaolanFaolan Posts: 118 The Mix Convert
    Summerjune15 wrote: »
    @Siena after I know what’s going on with this whole situation I think I’m going to delete my account too or be really careful what I say

    The sad thing is though is that you shouldn’t have to be careful about what you say here. It’s a mental health forum, you should be able to talk about what’s on your mind in confidence to get support from your peers. You should have a right to decide if you want to report your issues. Not have that decision made for you by someone who knows 0.1% of the actual story.

    If you’re being abused or in immediate danger, fair enough..

    But if it’s historic and you’re in no danger, why should your right to decide be ripped away by a charity who claims to care about your mental health?

    I’m frustrated for ye tbh. I hate the police with a burning passion. They should be last port of call.


  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,713 Skive's The Limit
    100%
    And I don’t want to make the mod or whoever made the decision to feel bad. But it’s not how this site should be going and making us uncomfortable even if meant with good intentions they don’t realise how on edge that makes us feel and not helpful at all
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • shannon_164shannon_164 Posts: 518 Incredible Poster
    Siena wrote: »
    The mix called 101 on me too yesterday

    They are not meant to be unless it’s an emergency. So they should never be using the non emergency line. Now they are just making everyone feel this isn’ta safe place. Iam pissed off cause Mike and Aife would never

    i’m not sure if you’re aware or not however since the merger happened the mix changed their confidentiality policy meaning that they now also report things that are a concern however not an emergency if that makes sense? their is a whole thread about the confidentiality policy change on here - i think it’s in the community announcements section🙂
  • shannon_164shannon_164 Posts: 518 Incredible Poster
    Faolan wrote: »
    Summerjune15 wrote: »
    @Siena after I know what’s going on with this whole situation I think I’m going to delete my account too or be really careful what I say

    The sad thing is though is that you shouldn’t have to be careful about what you say here. It’s a mental health forum, you should be able to talk about what’s on your mind in confidence to get support from your peers. You should have a right to decide if you want to report your issues. Not have that decision made for you by someone who knows 0.1% of the actual story.

    If you’re being abused or in immediate danger, fair enough..

    But if it’s historic and you’re in no danger, why should your right to decide be ripped away by a charity who claims to care about your mental health?

    I’m frustrated for ye tbh. I hate the police with a burning passion. They should be last port of call.


    it really is sad that you’ve gotta be extra careful about what you share on here just in case when it shouldn’t be that way!! i totally agree with you on them breaking confidentiality if you or someone else is in danger then 100% makes sense but for something that happened years ago that is not putting you in danger, why…? i wasn’t too bothered about the new confidentiality policy but seeing this thread has really made me think again about what i’m gonna share!!

    i would imagine this thread shall be closed as soon as staff / mods are on today as we’re voicing opinions on the mix and how they deal with stuff in a negative way, how dare we haha you’re only allowed to share positive things about the mix on here and take negatives through the right channels (talking to them directly only) it’s so silly
  • Chloe234Chloe234 Community Champion Posts: 3,805 Community Veteran
    edited January 18
    Just gonna chip in here as I feel like there's a lot of frustrations. The Mix will only call rhe police if they feel it's necessary (emergency or not) and they have a whole process behind their assessment for it which we don't see. There seems to be some confusion about the confidentiality policy so if you'd like to have a read of it explained you can find it here:
    https://community.themix.org.uk/discussion/3605469/️-our-new-confidentiality-policy-explained#latest

    I do get that it's upsetting and hard when the police are contacted however issues surrounding this should always be done in PMs to the mix rather than on the community forefront as it can cause conflict and make the community feel unsafe in a way for other members.

    There's been some other feedback about how the merger has made people feel and if you ever wanna voice this you can always email, pm, or use the feedback form to @TheMix

    It is sad that V, Aoife and Gemma have moved on but it's because they wanted to take a different and new path which everyone wants to do every now and then but we've also got to remember we still have Sian, Ella, Katie, Claire and all the other staff who are working to try and keep everything running smoothly. And we need to appreciate that their job isn't as easy as it may seem! They have a duty of care over what is said on here and on support groups where if something seems worrying or concerning to a point they feel necessary to contact the police then by law they have to
    🦆💜🦆💜🦆
  • Summerjune15Summerjune15 Posts: 86 Budding Regular
    Does anyone think that I’ll have to talk to the police or if they have to come to my house
  • Chloe234Chloe234 Community Champion Posts: 3,805 Community Veteran
    Summerjune15 wrote: »
    Does anyone think that I’ll have to talk to the police or if they have to come to my house

    the mix are the best people to ask as we only know as much as youve shared.
    🦆💜🦆💜🦆
  • Summerjune15Summerjune15 Posts: 86 Budding Regular
    edited January 18
    @Faolan the story was i ran away from home it’s not home I was trying to run away from it was me if that makes sense like trying to escape my mind but anyway the police were called and they were quite to act because of my history of mental health which fair enough again I had no problem with the police it was just that one idiot who didn’t know nothing about me and said that and my mum explained that I’m autistic and have other things like adhd and anxiety so that’s all the police need to do is do a case or something about autism adhd etc but it didn’t bother me I only said it because another girl was sharing her experience so I wanted to let her know I understand but for it to be reported 4 years later is ridiculous I really hope they didn’t mention me in the report but thank you
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  • shannon_164shannon_164 Posts: 518 Incredible Poster
    edited January 18
    Chloe234 wrote: »
    Just gonna chip in here as I feel like there's a lot of frustrations. The Mix will only call rhe police if they feel it's necessary (emergency or not) and they have a whole process behind their assessment for it which we don't see. There seems to be some confusion about the confidentiality policy so if you'd like to have a read of it explained you can find it here:
    https://community.themix.org.uk/discussion/3605469/️-our-new-confidentiality-policy-explained#latest

    I do get that it's upsetting and hard when the police are contacted however issues surrounding this should always be done in PMs to the mix rather than on the community forefront as it can cause conflict and make the community feel unsafe in a way for other members.

    There's been some other feedback about how the merger has made people feel and if you ever wanna voice this you can always email, pm, or use the feedback form to @TheMix

    It is sad that V, Aoife and Gemma have moved on but it's because they wanted to take a different and new path which everyone wants to do every now and then but we've also got to remember we still have Sian, Ella, Katie, Claire and all the other staff who are working to try and keep everything running smoothly. And we need to appreciate that their job isn't as easy as it may seem! They have a duty of care over what is said on here and on support groups where if something seems worrying or concerning to a point they feel necessary to contact the police then by law they have to

    i fully agree with chloe here!! as much as it can be upsetting, it’s not a simple decision that is just made by one person, there is a whole process behind the decision to involve other services! it’s not a case of v, aoife and gemma would have never done this, it’s a case of the current staff and mods doing their job and following the current policies and procedures at the mix - they maybe wouldn’t have done this when they did work here due to the policies and procedures around confidentiality being different meaning non emergencies were not something that was reported then however since it changed and non emergencies also do require reporting, they would have also followed this - it’s nothing personal from the staff and mods, it’s a case of policies and procedures being followed🙂
  • Summerjune15Summerjune15 Posts: 86 Budding Regular
    @shannon_164 i understand if it was last week but it was 4 YEARS AGO and I have been doing so well I haven’t been involved with the police since I was 15 I’m now 17 that’s 2 years without issues that the police haven’t been involved and they’ve gone and ruined it over something that was 4 years ago..
  • Chloe234Chloe234 Community Champion Posts: 3,805 Community Veteran
    @Summerjune15 i dont think you ever specified in chat how long ago it happened. Its not a case of the mix ruining it on purpose, someone with authority saying that you deserve a beating shouldnt ever say that and with it being reported it can protect others from that happening to them.
    🦆💜🦆💜🦆
  • shannon_164shannon_164 Posts: 518 Incredible Poster
    @Summerjune15 i understand it’s frustrating, i really really do!! however i can assure you that there is a whole process behind the decision of confidentially being broken, it’s not a case of one staff member going “here i might tell the police about this for the craic”, they will have had a reason behind it - as i said last night from what you shared i would imagine that it is due to it falling under someone being in a position of trust being able to hurt someone - the mix would be the best people to answer more for you as they obviously made the decision to share what you said though.

    i know that from my experience volunteering with shout, the decision to break confidentiality is a big decision - for example, if it’s a conversation i’m having with a texter i will inform my supervisor who will then communicate with safeguarding and potentially other supervisors too regarding what the decision will be to ensure that it is the right decision - i know with the merger, shout / the mix have super similar policies and procedures now, they aren’t identical from what i know as shout don’t report just as much in terms of non emergencies, however it follows the same processes in terms of assessing whether confidentiality needs to be broke in order to keep people safe, and i can assure you it really is not a simple decision that is made, we work with the texter as much as we can to avoid having to tell someone, breaking confidentiality is super last resort.

    i’m sorry if any of this comes across cheeky or anything as that is not my intentions at all, i just struggle to word things sometimes.

    hope you’re ok🩷
  • FaolanFaolan Posts: 118 The Mix Convert
    Not saying it’s an easy decision, we’re saying it’s 4 years late & a bit far fetched 😂

  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,713 Skive's The Limit
    But this is stuff even childline wouldn’t of reported if was messaging them over text
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • Summerjune15Summerjune15 Posts: 86 Budding Regular
    @Faolan exactly and they aren’t even messaging me back to tell me what’s going on etc and if I have to be involved I really wish I could make them feel how I feel then maybe they will understand
  • shannon_164shannon_164 Posts: 518 Incredible Poster
    Siena wrote: »
    But this is stuff even childline wouldn’t of reported if was messaging them over text

    childline is a different service with their own polices and procedures to follow that are different to the mix🙂
  • Summerjune15Summerjune15 Posts: 86 Budding Regular
    @Siena I hope your okay I know themix called 101 with you as well
  • SienaSiena Posts: 15,713 Skive's The Limit
    But they should have less strick policy than childline atleast
    “And when they look at you, they won't see everything you've been through. They won't see the **** that turned to scars that began to fade with time. They won't see the heartbreaking things that shook up and changed your entire world. They won't know how many tears you cried or even what it was you were crying about. They won't see how strong you had to be because you had no other choice. What they will see though is how compassionate you are because you experienced pain. What they will see is how kind you are because you experienced how cruel the world is. What they will see is how good you are because you've seen how bad things or people can be. The difference between you and your experiences are who you choose to be, despite everything that could have turned you cold and unkind.You are the good the world needs and the best of us.” ~ Kirsten Corley
  • Summerjune15Summerjune15 Posts: 86 Budding Regular
    Like maybe the police officer had a long hard shift I am not making an excuse for him but he didn’t know me at all he just knew there’s a 13 year old gone missing who has a history of mental health and we need to find her he didn’t know I was autistic nothing he didn’t know how to handle me and calm me down so that’s all they need to do is do a course on autism adhd anxiety etc then sorted
  • shannon_164shannon_164 Posts: 518 Incredible Poster
    Siena wrote: »
    But they should have less strick policy than childline atleast

    not necessarily, every service is different and have their own policies and procedures - most services don’t report non emergencies, only things that put someone at immediate risk, however, the mix obviously do now also report non emergencies - childline only report things that put you or another person at immediate risk or if they have to by law eg for a court case as their policies and procedures are different. i get what you mean thinking that childline supports children so should have a more strict policy, but the mix also support children too, as well as young people up until 25.
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