Plus size model front cover of magazine. Right or wrong?

ShaunieShaunie England 🏠Posts: 4,359 Uber Poster
edited October 2018 in Politics & Debate
Heyy

so like last month i saw a lot of discussion around wether this is okay or not. And am wondering what people on here think. 


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/amp23004671/tess-holliday-response-criticism-cosmopolitan-cover/

I have anorexia and im all up for being confident in your body and for them to stop putting super skinny woman on magazines and stuff. But i think this front cover, is just as damaging as putting skinny woman on it. 

Ive read a lot of discussion on this and watched the interviews and i just still think its wrong no matter how they justify it. To me and probably others - the woman on a front of a magazine just says that this is what we should look like. Not once does the magazine say about this being unhealthy. She aint just a bit overweight. Obviously Being that fat is dangerous. comes with so much health problem. And obesity in children and everyone is so high that is a massive problem for the NHS so like why do we need that. I just dont get why cant we just put healthy weight people on it as promotes being healthy. 


The model says
 "my message isn't 'let's all be fat', my message is 'let's love yourself'".

I mean yeah we all need to love ourself & being happy while that size but also trying to lose weight to be more healthy is important.



And i find it interesting she says “Your mental health is far more important before you can worry about your physical health."  Mental health is so important. But i think mental and physical are both linked. So feel like that statement is irrelavent. Having eating disorder i am constantly told about how my diet can affects how i feel, no energy from no food causes more low mood. And i think if people are eating unhealthy stuff then that could affect how theyre feeling and sometimes eating shit can make you feel shit and exercise is also important for mental health. Which is something they dont really talk about in their discussion which i think is important. 

but just wondering if others think this should be on a cover or not? 
 

Comments

  • Millie2787Millie2787 Posts: 1,643 Postholic
    edited October 2018
    This is just my opinion i don't see the problem with it being on the cover , i'm glad she feels comfortable being 'plus size' and actually a lot of the time when you see 'plus size' models there like size 14 so to me that isn't a real plus size. 
    I can see its unhealthy and can lead to some implications in her life but if she wants to be like that then thats her choice
    I myself am pluz size , im 16 and in size 20 clothes and i have tried so many different diets that i cant seem to shift the weight 
    This helps me in terms of my body confidence and image as i think if she feels comfortable in her body than maybe i can be
    i would much rather see a woman of there natural weight than one that has been photo shopped here there and everywhere.

    Most importantly  shes comfortable in her own body and to me that's what matters the most

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    You have a purpose.
    littlegemz
  • ShaunieShaunie England 🏠Posts: 4,359 Uber Poster
    edited October 2018
    Yeah i agree. And Im not saying that people cant be obese and be happy and be confident in their body. I mean yeah they can be models and what not. Eat what they like & stuff. Just dont think is something that should be normalised and celebrated. 
    its a bad life chioce and unhealthy. I know some try to eat fine but stil be over weight. But you dont get to that weight eating normal diet. And i can imagine somene who eats takeaways every night and is overweight to see the magazine and think “yeah its not that bad”. Over half of people are overweight
    And ive read a lot of comments that it is like putting soemone whos smoking on a magaizine and saying “this is my life and its okay”. Its unhealthy
    I just dont think should be on fromt cover as normalise it. if theyre going to put the model on front cover i think they need to empathsis that we need to be happy with who we are but need to try to get healthy
     
  • Millie2787Millie2787 Posts: 1,643 Postholic
    I understand that but also by the looks of it it hers response to the haters - TBH i appulad her for being able to show her natural size with no care in the world - im pretty sure that a overweight person isn't going to look at it and think its normal - i can tell you now every overweight person knows that they are overweight and they need to lose weight so they know that its not normal 
    And i disagree with the comments saying its like putting someone on the front cover who is smoking 
    You have a purpose.
  • ShaunieShaunie England 🏠Posts: 4,359 Uber Poster
    But it never says in the magazine that its seriously not okay. Celebrating something that can kill you :/
     
  • Millie2787Millie2787 Posts: 1,643 Postholic
    Shaunie said:
    But it never says in the magazine that its seriously not okay. Celebrating something that can kill you :(

    Wouldnt quite goes are far as killing you - she defintley not at the the stage of life or death 
    well you dont see it saying ' Im photoshopped and not real' on the ones that are skinny ?
    You have a purpose.
  • ShaunieShaunie England 🏠Posts: 4,359 Uber Poster
    edited October 2018
    Even her photo is photo shopped tho.

    Morbitly obese can kil you. Enlargens the heart. Give you heart attacks and increase risk of skin cancer and so many other complications. You dont need to be old for that to happen

     
  • ShaunieShaunie England 🏠Posts: 4,359 Uber Poster
    [turned into a bit of a rant, thats not completly relevant. Lol. sorry]

    This is just something that interests me as when people talk about ‘body confident’. Everyone seems to start talking about having ‘curves’. Ive read a load of shit of talking about curves and where theyre actually doing the opposite and body shaming - skinny people. Ive even read “real men like curves, dogs like bones”. And i aint saying we should normalise being skinny.  But some people  can have anorexic weight, cant help their matabolisim and be perfectly healthy, & hate it. I hate my body sometimes when i become less deluded and realise my weight and see how skinny i am. And eating disorders aint just about looks and wanting to be the way i look, i guess same said with binge eating disorder.  But not having curves can be seen to be disgusting as “your man doesnt have anything to hold on” . And “curves are beautiful”   I have read all these shit quotes about “body confidence” when my anorexia head believed i was fat & needed to & then sudden realisation i would feel awful about my body from things ive read or seen on media

    So i dont really get any of this. Kinda contradictive in my view. 

    Like why is not okay to have skinny woman on the magazine covers but okay to have very fat woman. 
    Both damaging,  both unhealthy. 

    But anywayyyy i am sure that the magazine is just trying to say we can be confident in our bodies. Which i completly agree with. Just dont think should normalise and think is importnat to be confident no matter what size but need to focus on health aswel. Thats all🙃


     
  • ArianaAriana Posts: 193 The Mix convert
    Feel like I'll probably get shot down here, but I quite like these kind of debates, so I'm going to dive in anyway! 

    I agree that glorifying a seriously unhealthy weight that will cause this woman a tonne of health problems and probably lead her to an early grave is not the way to go. I equally don't agree with celebrating unhealthily thin models on the front cover of magazines either. I think it would be a lot better for everyone if people who are a normal, healthy weight were featured as models in magazines. Learning to love yourself is definitely admirable, but in my view this takes it too far. I'm not saying that I want her to feel ashamed of how she looks or that I think anyone has any right to take issue with her for how she looks. But I don't think either unhealthy extreme of weight should be promoted on the cover of a magazine and if I were her I would be wanting to lose some of the excess, not because weight has any bearing on your value as a person, but just for the benefit of my own health.
    leviidz
  • ShaunieShaunie England 🏠Posts: 4,359 Uber Poster
    Ariana said:
    Feel like I'll probably get shot down here, but I quite like these kind of debates, so I'm going to dive in anyway! 

    I agree that glorifying a seriously unhealthy weight that will cause this woman a tonne of health problems and probably lead her to an early grave is not the way to go. I equally don't agree with celebrating unhealthily thin models on the front cover of magazines either. I think it would be a lot better for everyone if people who are a normal, healthy weight were featured as models in magazines. Learning to love yourself is definitely admirable, but in my view this takes it too far. I'm not saying that I want her to feel ashamed of how she looks or that I think anyone has any right to take issue with her for how she looks. But I don't think either unhealthy extreme of weight should be promoted on the cover of a magazine and if I were her I would be wanting to lose some of the excess, not because weight has any bearing on your value as a person, but just for the benefit of my own health.
    I agree
     
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