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Galloway Gone

Expelled for being anti-war

I think Tony Benn sums it up perfectly:
The message that is sent out is: if you are in favour of the UN charter and peace, then don't be a member of the Labour Party because if you do, you might be expelled
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    America 2... is that the way the Uk is going?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Another disgrace, and another reminder that Tony Blair and his 'New Labour' cronies are a cancer for the party.

    How very nice of them to expel, gag or ban anyone who dares go off-message or speak against the Dear Leader.

    They have learnt nothing from the Ken Livingstone affair it'd seem.


    :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    When I was about eleven I always preferred the labour party over the other candidates (although I only knew the three bigger parties cuz I was just a babby) but now I'm disgraced of even ever considering voting labour.

    I always thought they represented the working class, or they were supposed to and I thought they were fairly left wing too... Bollox to that.

    I'm votin' green! :yes: :thumb:
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    Does anyone have a link to what he actually said? I have seen a few excerpts of his speech, and out of context they were a bit out of order......

    I don't care which side is inciting hatred and violence, they are still wrong, and I would like to see the whole transcript to see if my impression of what he was saying is correct......
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Good point Ladyjade... but then how far can we trust the media?

    My friend's been screwed over by them many-a-times by that BBC Show Week in Week Out (or the makers of it/presenter).

    basically to get a juicy story they pick and mix parts of interviews and whatnot and it's not always what is said.

    But I'm still voting green. :p
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    Originally posted by MoonRat
    Good point Ladyjade... but then how far can we trust the media?
    .............basically to get a juicy story they pick and mix parts of interviews and whatnot and it's not always what is said.

    I don't dispute that in the slightest, it is standard practice and we all do it, any story we ourselves relate to others is filtered through our own emotional response and prejudices, no such thing as absolute objectivity.

    That is why I want to see a transcript of exactly what he said.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Like LadyJade says, I would like to see the transcript in full and see how far he went.

    According to the BBC these are the charges laid by the Labour Party (and of which he was found guilty of all but the third charge):

    - he incited Arabs to fight British troops
    - he incited British troops to defy orders
    - he incited Plymouth voters to reject Labour MPs
    - he threatened to stand against Labour
    - he backed an anti-war candidate in Preston

    Well I must say I don't have any problem whatsoever with 2, 3, 4 or 5. I would like to see the full transcript of his alleged encouragement to Arabs to fight British soldiers. In any case, this is not a matter for the Labour party disciplinary panel or internal rules.

    Seems like another case of fascist tactics by New Labour.

    Their loss.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/story/0,9061,1069446,00.html

    His main point appears to be that the invasion was illegal thus under the rules of the Geneva cionvention the British soldiers should have disobeyed orders, not unreasonable I think..........
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can' find the article now but a report in the Guardian yesterday said that he did not encourage the Rabs to fight the coalition but encouraged rataliation in the form of trade embargoes etc.........
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So what will become of Galloway now then? Will he be as successful as he seems to think, or will his voters be put off by his 'traitorous' behaviour?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Contrary to what New Labour and Mr Tony might think, ordinary Labour voters are disgusted at what the party has become.

    The only people who fully support the ways of New Labour are right wing voters and the owner and editor of the S*n.

    London Labour voters told New Labour to FUCK OFF and voted for independent candidate Ken Livingstone en masse. I would expect a majority of Labour voters in Galloway's constituency are going to do a similar thing and side with him, deserting the party that has been kidnapped by right wing twats and has betrayed everything the Labour Party stood for.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As George Galloway put it on Radio 2 today: "I will always be linked to the labour movement, I was the youngest ever head of Scottish Labour while Tony Blair was still an Ugly Rumour at Oxford University. I'll always be there for the Labour movement, Blair is here today but he'll be gone tomorrow."

    I'm a Labour Party member and I'm disgusted with this decision. Someone mentioned Ken Livingstone earlier, it is disgraceful the way the party treated him. Most ordinary Labour members backed him, most trade union members backed him but Blair pulled every trick in the book to block him. He then went on to push Frank Dobson into third place. To be honest, I expect Nicky Gavron, who is totally unknown where Frank Dobson was known due to his stint as health secretary, to come in 4th place next time given the unpopularity of New Labour compared with 2000 and the improved reputation of the Lib Dems.

    I'm surprised Galloway isn't joining the Scottish Socialists, they seem a lot more in tune with his style. I also sincerely hope he forces a by-election in Glasgow Kelvin and I hope he wins just so another blow can be delivered to New Labour.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kevlar85
    . I also sincerely hope he forces a by-election in Glasgow Kelvin .
    oooh thats my dads area. O/T sorry
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    He was wrong to say what he did, and his expulsion is correct. Whether or not you agree with his sentiments is irrelevant, he broke party rules.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If Galloway was expelled because he was off-message and brought the party into disrepute, why is corrupt, cheating, lying Peter Mandelson, who has broken so many rules and done so many dodgy things there might be grounds for criminal prosecution, still a high rank member of the Labour Party?

    What a load of bollocks the whole thing is!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    If Galloway was expelled because he was off-message and brought the party into disrepute, why is corrupt, cheating, lying Peter Mandelson, who has broken so many rules and done so many dodgy things there might be grounds for criminal prosecution, still a high rank member of the Labour Party?

    What a load of bollocks the whole thing is!

    Because he doesnt criticise our beloved Prime Minister, stoopid!

    But the fact is Galloway broke Labour rules, and he cant complain about being expelled, though it proves just what a devotee to democracy the cunt in Chequers really is.

    Corruptions OK, criticising Blair isnt. Dont ever forget that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent
    He was wrong to say what he did, and his expulsion is correct. Whether or not you agree with his sentiments is irrelevant, he broke party rules.

    Which rules particularly?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg
    Which rules particularly?

    We could start with open support for a non-Labour candidate...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fair enough I suppose, maybe then we should question the validity of the rules of the Labour party...........
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