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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
So at the moment there's a big political agreemeant on cutting down on preparation time for the teachers, shortening or completely abolishing study trips and putting extra students into the classes of further education (institutions of learning for people finished basic school). Every Danish party has agreed to this plan, except from one.
Both teachers and students are very worried that this will go through as a law, as it's degrading the quality of education in every kind of way possible, and hasn't got any benefits at all, except from financial. And we don't think that the financial gains are worth messing up the education of a generation which the future is reliable upon.

Now, there's been a lot of frustrations. Both teachers and students put down work from 10, to make a common stand on the fact that we're against this plan.
Thing is, this isn't enough. We had one journalist at school for an hour or so, and had a phonecall to update them later on. That's the only broader attention we've got today.
So the student council, and some of us students sat down trying to think of what we could do to get heard and taken seriously.
I and two other students wrote an article/reader-letter on behalf of the students in school, which we've sent out to all medias we could possibly think of. Hopefully, some will publish at least small bites of it tomorrow.
We've brainstormed through ideas which would emphasize the problems to the broader public, without making ourselves look silly, and I was wondering if any of you had any suggestions?

Demonstration do not work. The Danish gymnasium students have a habit of doing that, and I am afraid that no one really cares anymore, plus it has been done two weeks ago. Some students from some other school, dressed up as chickens and stood in the middle of town singing songs about the government and caught attention, but rather laughs than understandment. That is not what we're searching for either. And I actually told them that I was against what they were doing as they were setting the rest of us back.

Any ideas appericiated :)

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sorry Jacq, but you are asking people from probably the most apathetic nation on earth. Seems like we just can't be arsed to stand up for what we believe...

    The only thing which is likely to make the Govt stand up and pay attention is a complete stop - not just one day, one hour - but a complete stop.

    Problem is that anything like this just affects your own education....

    Tough one.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Like MoK says, difficult to do anything without adverse affects to yourselves.........

    Are the teachers unionised? Do you have a students union?

    These might be the best organisations to channel your discontent through................
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Today we stopped from 10 as well. Us and 2 gymnasiums from nearby gathered at a 4th gymnasium where groups were set up to discuss the different points of the new law, and thereafter write a piece on it to the county council. Everyone is going to print out a copy of an essay, send it together with a note saying "our teachers don't have time to look through our work, could you please correct them for us?". 2 banners which cover 25 x 1,5 metres of the surface of the school.
    Yesterday the teacher put down work, to show solidarity with us, but they can't do it for more than 24 hours, or they get fines. So we have blocked all the entrances to the classrooms, and the teachers will then hopefully say "oh well", and should they really be eager to note our attendance they have the possibility to, though I doubt they will as it's their teaching which would suffer.

    Other students have blocked their schools completely, and are saying that they won't let anyone enter until the suggestion gets taken back completely. Overall, there is happening a lot of stuff, but it's not enough. And we're desperately thinking of ways which will make ourselves heard and noticed.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg
    Like MoK says, difficult to do anything without adverse affects to yourselves.........

    Are the teachers unionised? Do you have a students union?

    These might be the best organisations to channel your discontent through................

    So far they've made matters worse. It's common that the people in charge of those are red, and in such a situation it shouldn't matter, but when the chairman states in front of all "fuck the government", "fuck venstre [ruling party]", it doesn't help our case. As the sad fact is that it's all parties except one who're agreeing to the proposement. Their statements which have been released have been foolish, and no one really thinks that they've done anything constructive.

    At the moment each school, needs to take care of themselves as the people in charge are not to much help. Or as we have done group together in the areas and go together on behalf of several schools.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well the best way to stop it is through the democratic process, what stage is the law at?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    At the stage where they've had meetings about it, all parties agreeing except from one. And gonna pass it through within this month if I am not mistaking.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Democracy at work then, some would say that you shouldn't be complaining...:rolleyes:

    Sounds similar to waht has happened in Britain, teachers with excessive paperwork but if it cuts costs then people are likely to vote for it, you may find it difficult to persuade people they have to pay more for your education.............
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg
    Well the best way to stop it is through the democratic process, what stage is the law at?

    What democratic process?

    Democracy is a sham, its just an excuse for self-indulgent corrupt vermin, for whom death would be too good, to do what they want and claim that because 25% of people voted them in five years earlier its somehow "the peoples choice".
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's not about paying more. It's about where you invest the money.

    One of the gymnasiums nearby got a new principle. Now 24 people had applied for the position. They chose someone who was overqualified so he therefore gets around £20000 more a year, than any other principle.

    My problem is not the rise of cost for the education, but the lowering of quality. Can't expect us to learn double as much with half of the current funding.

    When looking through different council budgets the financing of some of their courses are insane. Surely you don't have to go to conferences first in Australia, then in the US and then Italy for the cause of traffic only, instead of concentrating it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    What democratic process?

    Democracy is a sham, its just an excuse for self-indulgent corrupt vermin, for whom death would be too good, to do what they want and claim that because 25% of people voted them in five years earlier its somehow "the peoples choice".

    :lol:

    Nice, a bit over the top maybe.............
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Jacqueline the Ripper
    Surely you don't have to go to conferences first in Australia, then in the US and then Italy for the cause of traffic only, instead of concentrating it.

    But how would the councillors get their free holidays, paid for by use tax-paying mugs, if they didnt have to jet all over the world attending conferences?

    Councillors caught being corrupt should be execuited, IMHO. It wopuldnt stop corruption, but it would make me feel better.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg
    :lol:

    Nice, a bit over the top maybe.............

    No, its how it works. Its politician logic, something only sewer rats can understand.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But what about all the Non-labour politicians, it seems strange to suggest that they can 'do what they want'
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg
    But what about all the Non-labour politicians, it seems strange to suggest that they can 'do what they want'

    I think Labour have shown that there is no party divide, all 632 of the scum-sucking leeches are in it for what they can get out of it, not what they can give out of it.

    And its not such a strange assertion- shadow ministers can still do very well from the lucrative lobby movement, which is where most Parliamentary corruption lies.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you do not believe that democracy can hold these people accountable and that all MPs are out for all they can get why do they not award themselves vast salaries of the kind found in most top companies?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Theyre getting there slowly. They couldnt afford 10% for the nurses, or 16% for the firemen, but they could find 35% for themselves.

    And people like the Lord Chencellor comfortably earns £350k, with perks and pensions.

    I guess its that politicians are not daft enough to be that honest, they only "earn" a smallish wage but boy do the perks mount up. Most top execs dont get the perks of the job that MPs do, but they are paid more to make up for it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hmmmmmm

    Right then,why did Blair face down the majority of the British Public to go to war with Iraq, what was in it for him personally?
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