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generic anti BNP thread #227
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I was just wondering, does anyone know if the BNP have any views on anything other than immigration? You never seem to hear them. Those leaflets you get through the post have nothing to do with the police, education, healthcare etc. , it's all " The New Labour government have lost control of the immigration system. England is for the English. " and that famous line " We aren't a racist party, but...."
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hatred amd intolerance to a very wide range of people would ensue. being black might not be the worst position to find yourself in ...being a leftwinge socialist might be seen as being even worse than having a black skin. being gay would be a real no no.
so if your black lean to the left and are gay ...head for the hills ...i won't be far behind you.
For example their economic policies are to the left of New Labour. They advocate greater emphasis on manufacturing and are quite protectionist in terms of trade.
The National Front splinter groups the National Democrats and the Third Way have the best policies of all the right wing parties but are much smaller than the BNP. They have also ditched compusory repatriation in favour of the more realistic policy of building a white homeland.
And to date there hasn't been a single case in human history when police/military brutality alone has defeated terrorism. Have a look at Chechnya and Israel if you don't believe me.
Theyll build good roads and get the trains to run on time then:p
This is already shaping up to be good...
Bet thats only cos youd have top do NS :rolleyes:
Because police brutaility will work, yeah? Because it wont make the terrorists more determined or anything, yeah? Because it wont mean that the IRA will be treated more harshly than the UDF, yeah?
Blairs the best right-wing leader in many a year actually. But I digress...
What, so now theyre saying that *we* will leave the UK, not those pesky immigrants. Do you have some weird definition of "realistic" that no-one else has, or are they already buying up land in Outer Mongolia in order to build this "white homeland"? Unless you mean that theyll kick the blacks out, but not the Irish and the Aussies and the Yanks and the Canadians and the Welsh and the Scots and Normans and the Germans and the Angles and the Saxons and the Vikings and the Romans...
The rest was very nice I just dont need it.
Firstly, a homeland would be land about the size of a city where only whites could live ( though only the kind of people who vote for NF subsiduaries would want to do this hopefully). Like in South Africa, where they "kept" all the blacks who lived in the inner city, and it was just outside the city, so the city wasnt "dirtied" :rolleyes:
Secondly, no one in England is purely English. Anyone with blond hair is part viking, ginger is part of Celtic, upper class people are all part German, hence Im not really sure what a pure England is, seeing as most of the English are not English.
Well I wouldnt personally say their policies are any good, just an easier option for working class, un-employed, tracksuit-clad white people who blame all there problems on foreigners
Well most things have "something good" about them, by default the BNP are going to have some decent policies, and in actual fact they have formulated some. They certainly have policies on a wide range of issues:
If any of you are anti-europe:
"We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union"
On Agriculture and Organic farming:
"We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain's farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation's need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming"
On transport and the environment:
"Increased investment is needed in Britain’s public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars
Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. “The polluter pays to clean up the mess” must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and a more human scale."
On Pensioners:
"The conditions in which many of Britain’s old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care. "
On Democracy:
"We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level. Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it. "
In particular the last pledge would appear to show that the BNP is far froma "Nazi" party.
Most of these pledges would be financed by "cuts in Bureacracy and all Asylum claims being turned down, with illegal immigrants being expelled.
from www.bnp.org.uk
If you believe any of that, then you're a fool. They are a Nazi party. Read up on their links with C18 and other far right groups. read up on their links with loyalist terrorists in Nothern Ireland.
Oh Mr. Griffin, how you make me laugh. How do they expect to expel all illegal immigrants? Nazi Germany-style house raids? That is the only way you could check every home, nay, every building in the country, just bursting in on houses with suspected coloured people, oops, I mean, illegal immigrants.
It would cost a lot of money to ship all the asylum seekers home as well, as Im sure a Nick Griffin regime would not want to support such "parasites of a formerly pure England"
Their "policies" are just a simplistic manifesto simply put there to attempt to prove they are a multi-issue party capable of sitting in government. The lack depth, understanding and analysis and use broad terms in order to appeal to as many people as possible.
All they do is go down to the pub and ask a few punters: "what do you think of our countryside? Transport? Farming? And of course, the average punter will answer "Oh the countryside. Beautiful! Must be looked after. Transport? A shambles! More roads and more investment are needed. Farmers? They need our support!
And so the BNP goes and proclaims: "We will protect our countryside. We will sort out the transport. We will support British farmers". A 5-year old could write such manifesto.
All of this of course is codswallop. Because the only issues the BNP really cares about are race and immigration. They are a racist, xenophobic, homophobic worthless piece of shit and there is no excuse whatsoever for even considering voting for such scum.
They were very active on the two countryside marches, distributing their free paper for the marches countrysider. In it they stated their support for British farmers and how they would stop all imports of food which could not be porduced at home. Their environmental policies have earned them membership by at least one prominent environmentalist, the founder of the Tinkers Bubble eco community in Devon. But as of yet their support in rural areas remains very low.
Socialist? I have heard the BNP being called many things, but this is a new one...
Let's see all those wonderful socialist/left wing/good policies the BNP has (all quotes from their website):
Yep, that's pure loony leftie talk alright.
Oh what a bastion of tolerance!
I think no comment is needed here.
Another socialist/loony leftie policy here then.
... and those who don't want will be kindly put into the first train to Auschwitz.
Yes, you've said it already. Have a fixation with immigrants do you?
Yep, that's more loony leftie talk alright. Notice how they would give the death penalty to paedophiles and terrorists regardless of what their crimes might be. Even death penalty-mad countries like America only give capital punishment who those who have murdered someone.
All those of you who ever thought Charlotte Church was fit before she turned 16, be warned. The BNP is coming for you and you shall hang you filthy paedo! The same goes to Animal Liberation Front terrorists who ever broke into a compound and let minks escape. Hanging is the only language they understand!
Do we think that the BNP would be demanding the death penalty for the murderers of Stephen Lawrence though? Or life imprisonment for any “lads” convicted of kicking an Asian half to death?
And what of "corporal punishment" to petty criminals? LOL, this sounds more and more like some of the Islamic countries they despise so much. But that's not the best: see what they have to say about their own members:
Mmm... no corporal punishment for them then. Clearly if you are a white fascist and your only criminal record was for sending a n*gg*r to hospital you're more than welcome to join the BNP. White right-wing burglars and thieves are also welcome. How forgiving of them!
Need I say more about this lot?
Perhaps because people can see through the empty promises and shallow policies and into the real racist fascist agenda of the BNP?
Steelgate/Angus - fuck off. Haven't you been banned from here once already for espousing obnoxious views?
You admit that you're racist then?
You said "I agree with their stances on Asylum and the like". The BNP's stance on asylum and "the like" is racist. Ergo, you are a racist, no?
The BNP have really tapped into the Asylum issue, it is their big vote winner. Nu Labour have failed in many areas but Asylum and Immigration is by far their biggest.
Figures released today suggest that numbers claiming Asylum in the UK have fallen dramatically, but will anyone believe them?
Open your eyes bud and see the real world.
LMFAO! Clueless fucker. Do the gene pool a favour and go play with the traffic. Or come down Brixton and spout your views...you wouldn't last long.
France, Ireland and Norway? Why on Earth do people from these countried need asylum? There are people being murdered all over the world because of their religion/political beliefs, and you want to give asylum to the French? The Americans too, because their lives are ever so hard.
What you are saying is anyone who isn't white should bugger off, or is it just a coincedence that you want to take asylum from perfectly safe comfortable countries?
Yes, Im sure you arent racist, you just tell the odd paki joke Im sure :rolleyes:
Those policies are not the sole preserve of socialist governments though. For example a few years after World War II when the first post war Tory government was elected they built even more council houses than the previous Labour government.
Presumably he specified those countries because thats the way the asylum system is supposed to work...Asylum seekers should go to the nearest safe country. Norway, France and Ireland(among others) are our nearest neighbours.
So, surely by your own argument we should, in fact, only give asylum to Irish nationals because both France and Norway have closer "safe nations" than the UK.
Unless you consider the five nations who share a border with France as "unsafe" (for example)?
Funny, I had this sense of deja vu, too...