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Originally posted by Aladdin Then is the question of who would win the first elections. Because there is a good chance the Ba'ath will not only be around but actually win the election. And what will the US do then? Re-invade?
The outlook is not so great for Afghanistan at present pnj. Sure, the monstruous Taleban have been removed, but nearly-as-vicious warlords are effectively in control, and democracy is still far away.
pnj> once again, only in Kabul and that represents a tiny fraction of the country's female population.
Originally posted by Balddog Not at present..
The concept is just too alien for the iraqi people. Theyve been ruled by military dictatorship for 30 years, it wouldnt be an easy transition, even if they wanted to make it..
Its up to them really..If they want to start toward democracy we will help them do so..If they want to go back to tribal rule of somekind, they are welcome to..Its all down to them..
Originally posted by Toadborg I do not think any of us are in a position to state as a matter of fact that the people of the middle-eastern nations do not want democracy.....
Originally posted by Balddog Indeed, but neither are we in a position to state as a matter of fact that they do want it...Yet we will still force it upon them.
Originally posted by Murph the Surf clandestine,
2)Imagine an Afghanistan where women can recieve medical treatment and go to school. Imagine an Afghanistan where religious nuts don't run the place. America has a commitment to help Afghanistan achieve its full potential in the family of nations.
I don't suppose you want the Taliban back, do you?
3)The press has been reporting all sorts of claims and they have no supporting evidence. Bush never said the war would be over quickly. We shall be there for as long as it takes.
4)Imagine trying to stop terrorism and murder in Iraq. Imagine offering democracy to an oppressed people. Imagine trying to prevent the proliferation of chems and biologics.
1)I have come to the conclusion that liberalism as presently defined and practiced is not a political persuasion, it is a form of mental illness.:) :yes: :wave:
Originally posted by Toadborg
Like MoK says, they have never been given the choice, that is the whole point of democracy.......
also i did not think we were frocing democracy anywhere apart from iraq and that is only a back-up motive (to look good for the media) to the true one........