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Tell them that polluting the atmosphere or killing of prisoners may cost them more than doing something else usually gets the message across
No prison is unescapable... None. If men can build it, men can escape from it. Ever read "Pappilon"?
Death is a sentance that once carried out has no escape...
Which makes things rather difficult in cases of miscarriages of justice.
People who commit crimes should be made aware of the conciquences. That depedning on their crime, their punishment will suit. I.E. if some one murders then why not snetance them to death? They took a life without regard for others so why should they be allowed to live?
As for the cost of sentancing some one to death being more expensive than allowing them to live in jail being looked after and fed etc for ever i am going to have to just disagree as it makes no sence. Fair enough the prisoner must be looked after while he/she is on death row but that does not take as long as a life sentance, and if capital punishment was brought back properly and the punishments for criminals suited their crime then it would less time and therefore surely would cost less?
Actually, the "sniper" was a remf wannabe, NOT "militarily trained" as a "sniper". The distances of the shots were nothing requiring any training. The miscreant chose a weapon similar to what he had been trained for, and absolutely NOTHING fucking similar as to be appropriate to the task!
While the caliber of his choice was acceptable for the point blank range he employed, a bolt action rifle available for half of the cost of the Bushmaster would have been a better choice, and allowed a longer engagement distance... as noted previously, Diesel and I practice at longer distances with pistols. Also, using that bolt action rifle would have precluded the empty cases which they misplaced.
Better still would have been using a .30 caliber bolt action rifle, and sabots, which would have eliminated ANY discernible ballistic markings...
"Military training" an issue? Naw... just another malcontent using his Muslim faith as a justification for his aberrational behavior.
Why do you not, in a single extraordinary moment, back that up?
Name even ONE singular convict that GWB executed.
Even one.
Name even one that GWB tried, judged, or sat in the jury.
Even one.
GWB presided over a state, and upheld the elected laws of that state.
Any other assertion is nothing more than a continuation of your usual bullshit lies and distortions.
Just ONE SINGLE TIME, why do you not state something based in truth?
You'll just have to believe it, because it's true.
I did however get my figures wrong. In North Carolina alone it costs $2.6 million dollars more to execute someone. http://www.geocities.com/karykittredge/taxpayertravesties.html
It's just sad that anti-death penalty campaigners have to resort to highlighting the cost to the taxpayer to get it abolished.
Your right, we voted for the death penalty and Bush. Thank God you don't call the shots for us.
It is more expensive because of the cost of all of the appeals. But people with life sentances appeal also, so if it is all factored together, I bet it would be about even either way. Killing them still makes society safer by removing those genes from the gene pool.
Bush is a big big fan of the death penalty and won his governor seat partly on that platform. During his time in office in Texas the State engaged in one of the most prolific periods of executions ever seen anywhere. He didn't turn on the juice himself any more than Hitler flicked the gas switch, but of course he is responsible for the increased rate of death penalty executions during his mandate! How many indults did he grant? Did he offer pardons for minors or the mentally handicapped?
Can you show me where Germany passed laws to execute minorities? How about where juries found guilty and sentenced those minorities to death?
Your comparison is bullshit and you know it.
Ah, the gist of it... being... that you will say any non-sensical thing to promote your self-serving emotional agenda. Reality is not to be considered, right?
Bush upheld his sworn duties, and carried out the will of the electorate of that state. Pretty vile concept, isn't it?
Having you - PERSONALLY - any minute fraction of an awareness as to how the US judicial system works? It would seem as it is a COMPLETE mystery to you. Perhaps you should just close the sewer, as the stench is rather disgusting...
So were the governors of other states. But they didn't go on a spree of bumping people off did they.
And yes, it is pretty vile when you have to resort to executing people because your judicial system is too dated to think of anything else.
Once more for the comprehesion challenged:
In an attempt to cure you temporarily of a portion of your preferred state of ignoble ignorance, the sentence is decided upon by a jury, not the governor, not the prosecutor, not the judge. The prosecutor recommends, the judge has the power to countermand (with cause), and the governor is able to reprieve by refusing to follow the wishes of the people (and have himself voted out of office at the soonest possible juncture). If district attornies (prosecutors) do not perform to the wishes and expectations, they are voted out of office. If the judges vary too far from expectations, they are removed.
The constituency decides the sentencing, when the reckoning comes.
While you may not like it? Tough shit. How would you feel about Texas dictating your sentencing guidelines? Texas is experiencing a drop in crime. The UK? As Greenhat has referenced repeatedly, has been declared by the UN a more violent and crime ridden nation than the US.
Wank away, if it makes you feel more secure within your chosen delusions...
Many states tried "something else", and were disgusted with the results. Capital punishment was reinstated, with cause...
As it happens, in Texas the Governor does not have the option of granting a reprieve, only a temporary stay. So even that opportunity to make the folks across the pond happy was unavailable to GW when he was Governor. Not that I have any idea why he would care what they think...
Oops...
Thanks for the assist/clarification.