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Vegetarianism- Right or misguided?
BillieTheBot
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More and more people seem to be turning to vegetarianism. In certain segments of the population- for instance young women living in urban areas- the practice is so common they are about to outnumber 'meat-eaters'. Whilst some of these do it for health or taste reasons, a big proportion falls into the 'moral reasons' category. Is it really wrong to eat meat/fish?
I'm asking this in the aftermath of a recent visit to a breakfast place in Clapham Common, south London. They're very busy at weekends and lots of 'trendy' liberal people go there for a fry-up. But it turned out the place only offered vegetarian/vegan food. When I asked if they had real sausages (as opposed to Linda McCartney's fake ones) I was given the dirtiest of looks by the "meat-is-murder" brigade. Personally I think that we are all animals and part of the chain food and as long the animal is killed humanely (which, I admit, it's not always the case) there is nothing wrong whatsoever with eating meat or fish. I was just wondering if there are any veggies in here, and what their views are.
I'm asking this in the aftermath of a recent visit to a breakfast place in Clapham Common, south London. They're very busy at weekends and lots of 'trendy' liberal people go there for a fry-up. But it turned out the place only offered vegetarian/vegan food. When I asked if they had real sausages (as opposed to Linda McCartney's fake ones) I was given the dirtiest of looks by the "meat-is-murder" brigade. Personally I think that we are all animals and part of the chain food and as long the animal is killed humanely (which, I admit, it's not always the case) there is nothing wrong whatsoever with eating meat or fish. I was just wondering if there are any veggies in here, and what their views are.
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Its much harder to get a balanced diet from vegetarian stuff but if they can manage it then good luck to em. Unfortunately most vegetarians dont have a damn clue about nutrition or their own bodies and fuck everything up.
Im not a veggie, I need my protein too much for that...Like you, im happy being on top of the food chain and also like you, i want the animals to be killed humanely.
Im fine with vegetarians until they start getting all extremist and using the old insults. Same as every group, its all fun and games until they try and force their views on others.
Two words: Food chain
balddog
Youve forgotten one large group of veggies..Those that do it to be fashionable. There are a hell of a lot of those round here.
These don't piss me off nearly as much as the "fashion lesbians".
But if they want to do it (vegetarians, not lesbians, but it applys to both i guess) they're more than welcome, as long as they don't try and move my posistion on the issue.
What i find even better (as in 'more amusing') are the people that don't eat meant for moral reasons, but are quite hapy to eat fish, or for that matter buy veggie meals from mcDonalds.
interesting Fact : Samuri around the 13th century would not eat meat, as it was seen as unclean, but they were more than happy to eat fish. No problem so far? They would also eat Whale meat, as they didn't make the distinction beween whales (mammals) and fish. Still not seeing a problem? Samuri liked to go out hunting, as it was a way of proving yourself without actually having to kill any-one, and obviously after a day hunting you damn well want to eat what you've killed... So they eat Boar, and this was OK, because the boar doesn't count as "meat", because the boar is "the whale of the mountains".
Amazing the reasons people will come up with for whatever they want to do being right and moral.
Bring on the meat...porterhouse, T-bone, lamb chops, tuna...whatever...ladyparts probably don't count here...!
history of vegetarianism etc
going veggie
animal rights linkage
red meat
No, rational thought is often an addition to instinct, we usually forget about instinct because its the very basic things we do in life, instinct is what allows us to survive, rational thought enhances beyond that, we do pretty much everything animals do and then some more.
Instinct will tell you want you want to do, rational thought will tell you whether what you want to do is the correct course of action.
Panic is no longer a survival aid.
Panic on the face of it may not be a survival aid, but inside your body panic sets off allsorts of helpful reactions, adrenalin is released, energy is burned quicker, the heart beat is raised, your immune system leaps into action.
Don't knock instinct, its what keeps you and everyone else alive, I sat and watched my cat eat a mouse it had caught a few weeks back, it sat and ate the bloody lot except one tiny little piece which appeared to be a kidney, I have since learned it was its gall bladder, the only poisonus part of the mouse, only instict can explain why it left it, every raw emotion you posses is instinct.
Perhaps the one of the most obvious instinctive things we do is shag, now consider how much your life revolves around the ulitmate aim or having and successfully raising offspring, practically everything you do is vaguely linked to it.
Yeah, baby.
Thank goodness I got it right...! Yes, eat vegitarians...all of them1
Yum!
Not alot of meat on the weedy fuckers though
Vegetarian is an American Indian word meaning "piss poor hunter"! I myself am a member of PETA. People Eating Tasty Animals!
MMMMoooooooooooooo!!! Smash, slash, hang and bleed and gut, followed by slice and dice.......yummie cuts of steak covered with mushrooms and onions yummmmeeeeeee:D
MMMMMMMMoooooooooooooooo!!!! Repeat as needed
If God didn't want us to eat meat he wouldn't have given us incisors.
If he wouldn't have wanted us to eat meat he wouldn't have given us the acids in our stomach that can digest it.
A few weeks ago I went on a night out, and feeling peckish we all went to McDonalds. I had a double quarter pounder, their biggest burger. I then proceeded to munch it all down, glancing at the girl next to me as she looked in horror. Sensing she was a veggie I removed it from my lips, and announced "KILL THE ANIMALS" then shoved the entire thing in my mouth
By the way I think that people should have the right to choose what to put inside their own bodies and not have other people badmouthing them or trying to convert them.
I think our position is more that nature intended us to be meat eaters, rather than the concept being "wrong", nor do we suggest that people shouldn't choose.
We just don't agree, and we certainly aren't trying to convert veggies.
meat and two veg.
all this fucking lifestyle shit is just that..........to much fucking telly and comfort. dont try to tell me theres any kind of frickin moral issue here. are the starving millions going to be told that eating meat is imoral.....i fuckin hope not.
and if you vegtables got your way the fields around here...north wales...would be green but lifeless.
if it moves.....get the fucker in the pan.
Nonetheless I would challenge that view by questioning any supposed 'unethical' or immoral aspect of eating meat.
Human beings are naturally omnivorous; we have ALWAYS eaten meat and plant based foods