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Gold Trafford see's the Edwardian Era close

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited January 2023 in General Chat
Manchester United have today announced that non-executive chairman, Martin Edwards has sold the majority of hos stake in the club.
Unknown Scottish Mining Millionaire Harry Dobson is believed to have snapped up the shares.
But what does this mean for the club and the fans?
Edwards has been hinting towards this since the monopolies and mergers commision rejected bskyb's take over. Indeed, Mr Edwards already gave up the Chief Executive role now occupied by Peter Kenyon.

However, the move has sent shockwaves to fan groups, particularly Shareholder's United who insist the club not be managed as a PLC. This move follows JP McManus and J Magnier gathering off a 8.6% share in the club. So just who is really incharge? what will happen to the club policies?

If Manchester United's Investors are looking for profit over on field success, future moves competing for the best players are likely to be negliable and high profile assetts such as David Beckham may be cashed in. However, until investors signal their intentions, speculation will be rife.

United in good hands or trouble at the top?

What do you think?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No doubt they'll get even richer, but then they are now above and beyond every domestic club except a few so it doesn't really matter anymore, they are always going to be bigger and richer than the rest. Its a shame for the domestic game though <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Clubs rise and fall all the time. Liverpool in the 80s were at thier peak. In the 90s where were they?
    Man utd were there in the 60s relegated in the 70s (Cant be sure when) rose in the 80s Kings of the 90s.

    Lets look at probably one of the biggest fallers of recent years.

    Nottingham Forest. Under Brian Clough they were kings of europe before they were relegated. Now they are under control of administrators.

    Are Man Utd at the start of a low period? If so how low can they go?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by ebb:
    <STRONG>No doubt they'll get even richer, but then they are now above and beyond every domestic club except a few so it doesn't really matter anymore, they are always going to be bigger and richer than the rest. Its a shame for the domestic game though <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"></STRONG>

    I dont think we'll get any richer. The whole of football is gonna get poorer, unless you're Real Madrid of course. I don't like the idea of the club been taken over by people who live in Jersey and have never been to the theatre of dreams.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by mancmanomyst:
    <STRONG>I dont think we'll get any richer. The whole of football is gonna get poorer, unless you're Real Madrid of course.</STRONG>

    Who are millions in debt... <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

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    I don't like the idea of the club been taken over by people who live in Jersey and have never been to the theatre of dreams.</STRONG>

    As a United fan I don't care where the owners live, so long as they do the right thing for the club. Somepeople though ^^^^^ seem to think that as long as they live locally and visit OT then I doesn't matter what they do to the club.

    I am also happy to see the club richer because this means better players and more domainance.

    As a football fan, I recognise that this wouldn't be a good thing. To have one club totally dominant would make our league no better than the SPL, and we can all see where that is headed...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent


    Who are millions in debt... <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    <STRONG>

    As a United fan I don't care where the owners live, so long as they do the right thing for the club. Somepeople though ^^^^^ seem to think that as long as they live locally and visit OT then I doesn't matter what they do to the club.

    I am also happy to see the club richer because this means better players and more domainance.

    As a football fan, I recognise that this wouldn't be a good thing. To have one club totally dominant would make our league no better than the SPL, and we can all see where that is headed...

    Madrid are backed by the Royal family in Spain. Debt means nothing to them, they will never go under unless the whole of football does.

    The people who have invested in Manchester United recently have no interest in football. They see manchester united as "the best quality stock in an out-of-favour sector". Ie, they want money. This means the club may opt out of competing for the best players and may cash in on assetts for the good of shareholders.
    Manchester United stock has suffered an alarming drop. From being valued at over a billion in 2000, to 362million in 2002. United arnt as rich as people think, but Peter Kenyon is an astute business man who knows what he's doing. I hope the power stays with him and not the Jockeys club.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Putting a record straight...
    Originally posted by mancmanomyst
    Madrid are backed by the Royal family in Spain. Debt means nothing to them, they will never go under unless the whole of football does.

    You said they were rich. They aren't, they have massive debts. Whether or not that means anything is irrelevant. They are held together by politics, not money.
    The people who have invested in Manchester United recently have no interest in football. They see manchester united as "the best quality stock in an out-of-favour sector". Ie, they want money. This means the club may opt out of competing for the best players and may cash in on assetts for the good of shareholders.

    A phallacy espoused.

    What financial benefit is there in selling off the assets which bring the wealth. Why the hell do you think Beckham has just signed a massive contract - because United make money from his image.

    The investors want money. The easiest way to make money in a football club is to win things. You cannot do that without a strong team. Winning things will bring in fans, gate receipts, merchandising and TV revenue...

    Being shite won't do that. It is in the PLCs interests to keep the team strong.
    Manchester United stock has suffered an alarming drop. From being valued at over a billion in 2000, to 362million in 2002. United arnt as rich as people think, but Peter Kenyon is an astute business man who knows what he's doing. I hope the power stays with him and not the Jockeys club.

    Stock prices only reflects financial market's confidence in a company, not its profitability. This confidence comes from more than just that company's performance, the ITV digital collapse (creating doubt on sustainability of TV rights) will negatively affect stock value. And the £1bn value was way over the top...

    Note United are still making huge profits (in excess of £75m net)
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