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Facebook is more annoying than not...
**helen**
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It can make things awkward though. Especially when it pops up in the newsfeed that a 'friend' is posting in the Dead Baby Jokes group and it keeps popping up on my newsfeed.
It's a disaster, people don't think, don't realise the harm they can cause, which can often have fatal consequences and think that it's just for something to do. Of course, Mark Zuckerberg committed crimes when he made it, and so many people seem to trust it blindly.
Do you have any basis for that comment?
Yes, facebook can be annoying, but in general only as annoying as the same people on it are in the rest of life. It's much like pretty much every other irritant out there - if you don't like it, avoid it.
As with anything in life, if you don't like something, don't use it. "friends" on Facebook are no more annoying than "friends" anywhere else. Why, if you don't like what they say or how they say it, do you keep them as "friends"?
It depends what you mean by "trust" with Facebook, Twitter, LiveJournal and the like. I don't think Mark Zuckerberg is some evil genius who's going to use photos of me running to bring about the New World Order. I don't really think he gives a shit what I put on his website. But of course he's going to use the knowledge that I run to sell advertising space on my part of his website to running shoe manufacturers rather than Dunkin Donuts. Big deal, I just wish he'd get his algorthims a bit better; I mention Wayne Rooney only to call him a bald Scouse wanker, so trying to sell a Manchester United credit card to me is a teensy bit foolish.
He illegally accessed databases containing personal information of other people studying at Harvard University, including photographs and use as a basic sample of users of what was initially known as Facemash, not Facebook. I think some of their information was available on the University's Intranet, not that Intranets are publicly accessible. The Social Network dramatises it somewhat, but the fact is, he accessed it despite not being authorised to. I wouldn't usually cite Wikipedia, but information is available in Facebook's entry too.
Initially, Facemash was only available to people studying at Harvard University, people studying at Oxford University and University of Cambridge were allowed in 2005.
ETA: Read a bit more. Harvard didn't take any punishment against him. hardly criminal is it?
The early version had restrictions on who it was available to - but you still had to sign up and provide all your personal information for it. It wasn't built using data obtained from the university networks.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2003/11/19/facemash-creator-survives-ad-board-the/
I couldn't find a more authoritative source. But anyway, I think something everybody can agree with is the unannounced user interface changes that are sometimes made and the discussions about whether or not people like it.
No punishment.
Then ive got all the grooming ones as well, and ones where people have been sending rude pics around.
All in all it's a nightmare, I can't stand the fucking thing.
Do you think the age limit should be higher than 13 or would that make no difference?
How would you go about enforcing it though? Most people I knew had myspace and bebo a lot before the age of 13.
I suppose it's just the tip of a very large iceberg though? And to think about it, that's just the issues you can actually do something about. As to proving your age, it's impossible, or at least very difficult to do without it becoming too complex, I think there were attempts to try to do it in about 1999 or 2000, but it didn't gain popularity.
true but I guess it's supposed to be a deterrent- Just not very effective
Basically, when I was at school to be a bully you had to be bigger than people or you'd fget you teeth kicked in. Now all you need is an internet connection.
Having to verify your true identity would be wonderful...for the police and intelligence services who want to shut down political debate. As has been proven time and again, people who want to sexually abuse children will abuse the most vulnerable or accessible ones: usually kids in care or kids within the family. And the former is more to do with systematic failings within local authority care, as in Rochdale. I wouldn't ever want to see identity verification for online accounts because of the way filth like FACT will manipulate that information to get people sent to prison for years on trumped-up decisions.
I see where you're coming from in terms of identity, it's semantics though, we can still trace people fairly easily, I don't suppose I could convince you that i've got no interest in political activists, I'm just looking for something to make it easier to track down internet bullies/groomers without so much paperwork ;-)
I suppose it depends upon various different factors, but I'm going to be cruel and suggest that it isn't as easy as it would seem.
I'm sure you, along with most other low level police officers, have no interest in political activists. They just want to go catch some muggers and internet sex abusers.
The same can't be said for your bosses though. Look at the expense the Met have gone to in recent years to infiltrate "green" groups who commit the cardinal sin of complaining about closing the Greenway in east London.
Most people who use social media can be traced fairly easily; they leave geo-locate on, they use their real name, they post pictures of the cat. But there's a difference between that and demanding that someone proves to Facebook who they are before they're allowed to go on the website, especially given how easy it is, even now, to commit debit or credit card fraud. It isn't so much in this country that it would be a massive issue, but in other countries it would be. The Chinese can still use social media by using Tor or Freenet, but the whole point of that is undermined if they have to give the website their home address and phone number...
The real corruption much higher up the food chain.
Luckily the most I have to contend with is usually a malcontent who likes abusing people over the internet. Even the people who are careful, make mistakes. Nobody can cover their tracks completely.
Anyway, back to the topic. Facebook is the work of satan.
I sort of agree. I've yet to meet a corrupt colleague (or at least recognise I've met one). Our nick is quite small, and we all joined and continue to do the job because we want to help. I ended up working in schools, trying to stop kids coming into contact with the rest of the justice system.