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Return to serfdom?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/nov/16/young-jobseekers-work-pay-unemployment
Work in order to receive the funds for your housing and for your food expenses, but no upward prospects. That's pretty much serfdom 101 isn't it? Economic slavery.
200 years ago the governments of the civilized world recognised the workers right to own or at least to have a stake in the land they worked. It's sad to see we have travelled so far backwards now.
I can see in the future:
- Owner class (very wealthy, funds businesses, enterprise)
- Business class (skilled and experienced workers and professionals, earn a comfortable income, can afford own home, have careers)
- Worker class (perpetually on short term placements of either unpaid or minimum wage work, work that doesn't really build or offer any skills, no future prospects for improvement of life situation, unable to own own home)
Right now I believe we are seeing the government manoeuvring to get its members in the most favourable position for the future - cheap and abundant labour = high profits for the owner class.
Work in order to receive the funds for your housing and for your food expenses, but no upward prospects. That's pretty much serfdom 101 isn't it? Economic slavery.
200 years ago the governments of the civilized world recognised the workers right to own or at least to have a stake in the land they worked. It's sad to see we have travelled so far backwards now.
I can see in the future:
- Owner class (very wealthy, funds businesses, enterprise)
- Business class (skilled and experienced workers and professionals, earn a comfortable income, can afford own home, have careers)
- Worker class (perpetually on short term placements of either unpaid or minimum wage work, work that doesn't really build or offer any skills, no future prospects for improvement of life situation, unable to own own home)
Right now I believe we are seeing the government manoeuvring to get its members in the most favourable position for the future - cheap and abundant labour = high profits for the owner class.
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We all have to do jobs we don't want/don't like/are dead end to in order to pay bills whilst we're working towards our end goal - whether that be retirement or our dream job. The only reason I'm not stacking shelves right now is because I'm not well enough to! Otherwise, thats exactly what I'd be doing, with a degree in Music languishing to the occasional moments of spare time and the once monthly local open mic night.
Yes the conservatives have royally fucked up, but I don't think they invisaged this situation - tbh, I don't think they had the foresight. Its what happens in a recession!
I think you need to stop reading reddit so much, and getting so worked up.
Could have been worse, in fact I thought it would be. No cuts were going to be painless and I was expecting a recession by now (and I say that as someone who thinks we do need to cut). In the end the piper always had to be paid for our profligacy and it is going to be less painless now than twn or twenty years down the road when the debt was higher, with greater interest payments and much less room for manouvre
Here's a story.
That kind of is what the thread was about I might have rambled off on an angle for a bit, but I posted the same link in the first post.
You only need to look at the gini coefficient over time in the UK to see the trend.
Furthermore it begs the question, what incentive would there be for this trend to change if the people with power benefit from this system?
Also with regard to labour being just as bad - perhaps or perhaps not. The problem is more the ideological underpinnings of the members of the conservative party - they want the future to head in the direction it's headed, to decrease the cost of labour and increase international competitiveness, to increase profit for businesses and wealthy individuals. Labour members by and large would prefer a future with better opportunities for all and a smaller gap between the richest and poorest. (These aren't exclusive options, but it demonstrates where the 'spotlight' is, it is not possible to focus on one aspect without a second concern at times being compromised)
Without proven methods, committing to using less resources through increased efficiency is ridiculous.
"Um, er, we'll just do what we're doing now.. but.. use less stuff to do it, yeah?"
'Oh, we won't make things worse, but we will save you money! We will just be more efficient!.'