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POTUS Born in the US of A *shocker*
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Seriously, is this all that's important in US politics these days. Or have the right wing really lost their fucking marbles?
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Oh, and the American right never had any marbles to begin with. They're so far up the arse of certain corporations that they can lick their tonsils. All of the bullshittery that goes with that (religion, abortion, etc) is just cover for what is the rampant vandalism of a country in the name of narrow corporate interests.
Of course they will. This was never a position based on any evidence to begin with, so the idea that providing evidence will shut them up is stupid. Maybe it'll stop media outlets from giving them any sort of voice though. But I doubt it.
Or if his name was Fred, or Jack or Richard.
Yes. But this isn't about them not having a platform but rather about them using the platform responsibly and to discuss real issues rather than irrelevant ones. Wit h all the problems which the US faces, at home and abroad, you'd think that Trump (and the right) would be more interested in correcting them than in seeing a birth certificate - do they really think he'd have been allowed to stand without checks being made?
As Obama said at the Correspondents Dinner, next they will investigate the moon landings...
That would normally be the left who believe in that, ie it is Nixon's cover-up. The other big conspiracy theory of course is that Bush is behind 9/11 and plenty of seemingly rational people believe that - they're not in the main Republicans
Though the UK shouldn't be too cocky - we've still got plenty of people who think Kelly was murdered by MI5 on the orders of Blair and that they also bombed the tube.
As conspiracies go the 'birthers' one is pretty harmless... its only suggesting that Obama wasn't born in the US rather than secretly murdering loads of his own citizens.
As for the moon landings thing, that was more a reference to the idiocy of the "birthers" approach rather than a reference to their political perspective.
As oppossed to accusing him of murdering voters for political advantage?
Do you really think that murder is the same as lying where you were born?
The suggestion is one of a foreign coup, in effect.
As an aside even if it turned out he wasn't born in Hawai it may not be clear that he would be US President The constitution states
It says nothing about being born in the US - McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. I think a half-way competent lawyer would show that as his mother was a US citizen and he acquired citzenship at birth.
I certainly agree that it's a stupid issue to focus all of your attention on, but that's just part of the political discourse. Both parties talk about stupid shit all the time. :x
That is so true, though there is also a difference between stupid stuff and petty stuff.