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Multiculturalism isn't Working

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote: »
    Funnily enough, when parts of Spain (Andalucia, to be precise) were under Moorish rule, you could say the region enjoyed a perfect multicultural society. Muslims, Christians and Jews all lived together in harmony and kept their own identity and culture while interacting with each other.

    Then the Catholics retook Andalucia, and everything went to shit. But that's another story.

    Same reason as British India - there was a dominant ruling culture (British/Moors) who really didn't mind how the natives worshipped or ate as long as they paid their taxes and didn't keep disrupting the peace by thumping each other.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teagan wrote: »
    Wow! And they haven't been integrated into the community by migration and marriage etc? They are still distinctly Yemeni after nearly 100 years? that's amazing. :)

    They're the ones who do survive, they're a small community at the periphery - they are not a threat to the dominant culture and they are too small to influence it, but large enough to intermarry and keep at least some of their own customs.

    That said I suspect if they are anything like many of the pre-1945 black communities in port communities the culture was heavily diluted and they'd have heavilly intermarried and also been as much a seafaring culture as a purely Yemeni one (I can't remember the exact figure but in 1939 something like 5% of the native black British population was serving or had served in the Royal Navy, much higher proportionately than the native white)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think you mean multiracial rather than multicultural, as apart from some small Indian tribes at the periphery, Brazil is very monoculture.

    It is now. I'm guessing that when the Portuguese settlers and African slaves first settled, they didn't have a lot in common though. It would be silly to suggest that there weren't two distinct cultures present there. Compare that to the US, where you have exactly the same situation, and yet to this day, you often have often separate and very distinct black, white and native cultures.

    A multi-racial society is a perfect indicator of a society where different cultures are not seen as a barrier. Compare that to a society in which people will look down on marrying outside their clan, for example, or simply never have the opportunity, because everyone just sticks to their own group socially. And multi-racial societies are another good indicator because race is the most obvious indicator of someone coming from a particular cultural background. Which isn't to suggest that racism doesn't occur in Brazil or that there aren't many gaps in opportunities between the races, but what there isn't is the apparent clash of cultures you sometimes see in other countries.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It is now. I'm guessing that when the Portuguese settlers and African slaves first settled, they didn't have a lot in common though. It would be silly to suggest that there weren't two distinct cultures present there. Compare that to the US, where you have exactly the same situation, and yet to this day, you often have often separate and very distinct black, white and native cultures.

    A multi-racial society is a perfect indicator of a society where different cultures are not seen as a barrier. Compare that to a society in which people will look down on marrying outside their clan, for example, or simply never have the opportunity, because everyone just sticks to their own group socially. And multi-racial societies are another good indicator because race is the most obvious indicator of someone coming from a particular cultural background. Which isn't to suggest that racism doesn't occur in Brazil or that there aren't many gaps in opportunities between the races, but what there isn't is the apparent clash of cultures you sometimes see in other countries.

    But in Brazil there isn't the clash of cultures because one culture (the European) basically subjucated the others. Brazil now may be a great example of racial and cultural harmony, but its not an example we'd want to follow
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