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Wife beater register

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
Or husband beater, presumably. Serial abusers of partners may have to sign a register similar to the sex offenders register under new plans. What does everyone reckon?

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Serial wife-beaters could be forced to register with police under new proposals by senior officers.

Men who repeatedly abuse women face having their movements and activities tracked under plans to combat domestic violence.

Vulnerable women and girls may also be given a "right to know" about persistent offenders if police feel they are at risk.

The moves are among several recommendations expected to be unveiled by Wiltshire Chief Constable Brian Moore on Monday.

He was asked to review powers held by police and the courts for dealing with domestic violence offenders by former Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.

Mr Moore will call for a change in the law to permit the registration and tracking of wife-beaters by police. But he will stop short of supporting a separate register, similar to measures that track paedophiles, rapists and other sex offenders.

The senior officer, national lead on tackling domestic violence at the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), will also call for the creation of a new criminal offence.

Senior officers want to charge abusers who repeatedly physically and psychologically torment women after evidence emerges of a "course of conduct". They believe this could put offenders in the dock who may currently avoid prosecution through being responsible for a string of less substantial crimes.

Other measures will focus on making witness statements immediately available, the creation of specialist protection orders and widening the use of conditional cautioning.

Mr Moore was asked to look at what more could be done to control violent criminals who often move between relationships and prove difficult to bring to justice. His report was part of a wider review that included the creation of an advisory group to look at how schools can combat domestic violence and an inquiry into the increasing sexualisation of teenage girls.

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I certainly agree with the sentiments behind it, but I'm not entirely sure about the practicalities.

Comments

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Considering most incidents aren't reported, and those that are the complaint is normally dropped, I can't see how this'll work tbh.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I understand the sentiments, but once again I can see an argument for ID cards and more state databases. Fundamentally this is wrong.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can't see it working either.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Discussion over then. Next. lol.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MoK wrote: »
    I understand the sentiments, but once again I can see an argument for ID cards and more state databases. Fundamentally this is wrong.

    yep, unfortunately it seems to be going in that direction
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Whowhere wrote: »
    Discussion over then. Next. lol.

    Lol, so should the fox hunting debate. For population control - yes. For sport - no. Move along gentlemen, there is nothing else to see here. But no, the bloody topic ran onto 18 pages!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'd be very surprised if this helped anyone, considering that in the majority of cases domestic violence isn't reported. It does just seem to be an excuse for another database and I'm worried about the potental "we did warn you" excuse that could be given if the victim leaves and needs a council house, for example. I think many victims would be even less likely to report violence if they knew their partner would be forced to sign a register.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think there is something seriously wrong with this country and it's never ending list of databases - although based on this story I can see some merits for officially recording such happenings as often things never get done or acted upon unless it's officially recorded in a register.

    If the goal is to lessen husband hitting their wives or wives hitting their husbands then social change is needed, better education in schools with lessons in relationships and how to deal with stress, etc

    This country is all about recording crimes, rather then actually trying to deal with the root causes.

    It's just like why UK has one of the highest numbers of teenage girls pregnant, when it's plain to see other countries like Holland that educate their kids better and at an earlier ages have far fewer.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i suppose recording and compiling data like this can only really go so far to solve the problem. (which, in my opinion, isn't a 'problem' that can be 'solved' in the macro sense; it is lots of individual cases) people at some point have to step in and do something rather than warn and sit tight waiting to say 'i told you so'.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I owas reading smething about oprah and domestic violence that said she'd been persuaded by a theory that you could help the victims to not become victims instead of just blaming the perpetrators. No idea where I read it and I can't find anything about it on the net now, just the opposite in fact. Anyone know?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oooh men are the enemy!! :rolleyes:
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