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charlie brooker saves the day again
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sorry kermit i had to post it! just wanted to see how people felt and if anyone wanted to make a complaint against this woman on the pcc website.
this morning jan moir published an absolutely hideous 'article' descibing stephen gately's death as 'sleazy' and understandably(!) after a short time of someone dying, seizing the moment to do a bit of a gay bashing in the daily mail. i cant believe that people can be this depraved. link to the orig article if you can bear to read it is http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1220756/A-strange-lonely-troubling-death--.html
if you want to feel less like nauseous after reading that then please move onto charlie brooker's rebuke here
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/16/stephen-gately-jan-moir
this morning jan moir published an absolutely hideous 'article' descibing stephen gately's death as 'sleazy' and understandably(!) after a short time of someone dying, seizing the moment to do a bit of a gay bashing in the daily mail. i cant believe that people can be this depraved. link to the orig article if you can bear to read it is http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1220756/A-strange-lonely-troubling-death--.html
if you want to feel less like nauseous after reading that then please move onto charlie brooker's rebuke here
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/16/stephen-gately-jan-moir
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As in so many other ways, The Grauniad is a fountain of hypocrisy and double standards. If the Daily Mail had posted such a biased and misleading story on their front page as "Guardian gagged from reporting parliament", they would have received no end of criticism from bloggers and the left-wing press. Proof that to The Grauniad, it's not what you believe that matters, it's who you are. Charlie Brooker - another unbearably smug cunt in the Polly Toynbee mould - proves this yet again here. Jan Moir, in my view a relatively poor writer, writes a piece which doesn't really say anything at all here. Yet one or two slightly ambigious sentences are taken by Brooker to imply homophobia. Yet again, we see The Guardian - who are always keen to accuse tabloid newspapers of inventing or embellishing stories - using exactly the same tactic. Presumably it's okay when boring loss-making broadsheets do it?
In the interests of fairness, here is the reaction of Jan Moir herself to the article. I can only - being of the charitable sort - assume that Clementine The Tangerine forgot to post the link to this in the opening post..
Christ on a bike. There's wrong...then there's being so wrong that the magnitude of error is so huge that it creates a split in the universe creating a parallel world where penguins walk the streets dressed as men. You're even more wrong than that.
And you don't think that this paragraph is saying something?
"Whatever the cause of death is, it is not, by any yardstick, a natural one. Let us be absolutely clear about this. All that has been established so far is that Stephen Gately was not murdered.
And I think if we are going to be honest, we would have to admit that the circumstances surrounding his death are more than a little sleazy.
After a night of clubbing, Cowles and Gately took a young Bulgarian man back to their apartment. It is not disrespectful to assume that a game of canasta with 25-year-old Georgi Dochev was not what was on the cards."
The woman essentially states that the she, a 2 bit columnist in The Daily Mail, a.k.a the Fuckwits Guide to an Angry Life of Idiocy, knows more than the doctor carrying out the post mortem. And, because Gately was gay and took someone home his death must be sleazy in some way. His body isn't even in the ground and she's trotting out the 'gay man dies young, must have been something dody going on there" stick.
On a lighter note and not at all related to this thread, here is something about a "tedious left-wing spider". Hilarious.
SG can't get through another thread without finding somebody to call a cunt? Who is really surprised?
This is priceless though:
Just as problematic as marriages? That didn't sound like what she was saying to me. "Gay activists are always calling for tolerance and understanding about same-sex relationships, arguing that they are just the same as heterosexual marriages . . . in many cases this may be true. Yet the recent death of Kevin McGee, the former husband of Little Britain star Matt Lucas, and now the dubious events of Gately's last night raise troubling questions about what happened." Sounds far more like she's making a less that favourable comparison between gay marriages and straight ones (not in all cases though - how considerate of her), and now is backtracking at an alarming rate now that her obvious bigotry has been pointed out.
The point was that describing Charlie Brooker as an "unbearably smug cunt" then comparing him to Polly Toynbee reveals a staggering depth of ignorance. The only thing Charlie Brooker has in common with Toynbee is that they both write for the Guardian. I'm assuming that she was the only Guardian (and do please make an effort to spell it correctly - the deliberate misspelling wasn't funny the first time people picked up on their copy errors and now, at least 89 years later, it just makes you look like a tit) columnist you could think of and that's why you threw them together.
The column says a great deal more than we knew before. It tells us that even though Gately seems to have been the victim of an undiagnosed heart defect that has affected his family, which can be the cause of pulmonary oedema, there has to be something a bit sleazy about his death. There has to be. It's just not natural for a young man to simply pass away. Except that it is and happens with frighting regularity. If the half wit of had even put pulmonary oedema into Google she'd have found out that it can be caused by an ill functioning heart, instead of dropping in the "Nevertheless, his mother is still insisting that her son died from a previously undetected heart condition that has plagued the family." as if she, Jan Moir, world respected cardiologist, somehow knows better.
Whether or not this "young Bulgarian man was going back to the apartment simply to have a nice cup of tea" matters not a fucking jot. If he was heterosexual and had taken two women home would his death somehow be unnatural?
because one of them dies?
Him, and EVERYBODY ELSE WHO READ THE DAMN ARTICLE. Except for you, apparently.
Incidentally it is not just the sandal-wearing liberals from the Guardian you despise so much who have found the article in question revolting... It's just about everybody who has read it; celebrities, journalists, members of the public... and for good reason too. The article is a despicable piece of homophobic fucking shite.
But no. Let's bash the Guardian instead... far more relevant and important.
:rolleyes:
:banghead:
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Why? Why the fuck does it have to be sleazy? I have been invited back to peoples homes on numerous occasions for a nightcap, a chill-out session after a night of clubbing, or a place to crash if I have been drinking and can't get home. I have left the house in the morning with my honour perfectly intact.
I have always given you the benefit of the doubt with your unfunny ranting and ravings but you have now confirmed that I have been wasting my time and that you're quite tedious.
:yes: S-G, you need to chill. I dread to think what your views are on important matters.
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I suspect what I'm really objecting to is the way certain people are reacting to this entire article. I've noticed countless websites urging people to complain to the Press Complaints Commission, for example - and what good will that do? If you're a third party, the PCC can effectively ignore you, and they neglect to mention that the editor of the Daily Mail, Paul Dacre, plays quite a significant role in the PCC itself as an organisation. I've noticed the usual suspect urging for her to be sacked, I've even read on Sky News that some prat has complained to the police about this article. Good fucking grief - it's one shockingly bad piece of writing from a shockingly bad columnist. Get a sense of perspective, for crying out loud.
So if there was some kid shouting abuse at a homosexual man, you wouldn't think "That's offensive" ?
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You know, your critcism of my original post would bear far more worth if Jan Moir actually offered anything substandial to say other than 'oh they are rather naughty for taking offence at my piece of drivel'. But yeah, thanks for providing that link.
and being straight doesn't somehow magically blind you from recognising homophobia. the same as being white doesn't blind you to acts of prejudice based on a person's skin colour.
Why, it's almost as bad as the Russell Brand/Andrew Sachs thing, an incident that the Daily Mail milked and milked and milked and milked and milked, whipping things into such an idiotic frenzy, demanding "groveling apologies" and dedicating vast editorial coverage to it.
Why, it's almost as if the shit they're so keen to throw at other people is being smeared underneath their own nose.
If that was the case, then fair enough. Debate is fine. But your post veered way off that.
By cloning your views with Jan Moir and 'presuming' that the 'Bulgarian man' must have been there for 'more than a cup of tea' is crass and you have delved to the same level of gutter shite that she has.
And then to post the link to Jan Moir's own defence in the interest of being 'fair' (implying that Clementine conveniently held this information back) is further insensitive bullshit. If there ever was an example of an article where this bitch is trying to backtrack on her vile prejudices in the interests of saving her career, this is obviously it!
And even if something else did happen, so what? That's their business. It doesn't make his death sleazy in the slightest.
I think her response actually makes the whole thing worse. Especially "It seems unlikely to me that what took place in the hours immediately preceding Gately’s death - out all evening at a nightclub, taking illegal substances, bringing a stranger back to the flat, getting intimate with that stranger - did not have a bearing on his death."
What?
Exactly. Any other media source and I would happily say, "don't like it, don't buy it." They very fact that it's the Daily Mail, a newspaper that has more than once called for other people's platform to express their views to be removed, makes it thoroughly justified imo. They are in absolutely no position to complain about any other individual or organisation attempting to whip up a controversy about one of their employees. I'm not planning on complaining myself, but I can't help but enjoy the irony of the Mail becoming a victim of the type of bullshit they're so keen to do themselves.
Many, many people have complained..you're not alone
Just when you think Stephen Green couldn't be any more of a cunt, he proves us all wrong.
So what are you trying to do now? Dig out the most offensive articles you can find? Why? The fact that is has come from Christian Voice is no surprise. It's a non-story.
What was offensive to almost all of us was your responses in the thread. Or haven't you worked that one out yet? If I hadn't read what you had posted, I wouldn't have even contributed to the thread. It was normal Daily Mail shit.
Exactly, I'm surprised people are surprised. Pick the Mail up any day of the week and there will be something as nasty as this, be it against ethnic minorities or any other group the Mail doesnt like.