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BillieTheBot
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ffs
why can't things be simple with this girl?!!!!! :banghead:
i moved out of my flat last week. we received our final bill for £220 and I gave my flatmate £110 to pay it off by card.
at first, a direct debit was set up for my account but they were ripping us off so we decided to just pay it quarterly.
anyway, i gave her £110 and she said she'd pay it. she's now turning around and saying that she isn't going to pay it and she's putting it towards her rent as ive "left her in the shit" DESPITE giving her 3 months notice of me leaving.
anyway, this bill is in both of our names. as they have my bank details from a previous direct debit, will they be able to trace me? will it give me bad credit history?
i dont have anymore money for this bill. i gave my flatmate my share.
what will happen if it remains unpaid?
why can't things be simple with this girl?!!!!! :banghead:
i moved out of my flat last week. we received our final bill for £220 and I gave my flatmate £110 to pay it off by card.
at first, a direct debit was set up for my account but they were ripping us off so we decided to just pay it quarterly.
anyway, i gave her £110 and she said she'd pay it. she's now turning around and saying that she isn't going to pay it and she's putting it towards her rent as ive "left her in the shit" DESPITE giving her 3 months notice of me leaving.
anyway, this bill is in both of our names. as they have my bank details from a previous direct debit, will they be able to trace me? will it give me bad credit history?
i dont have anymore money for this bill. i gave my flatmate my share.
what will happen if it remains unpaid?
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the girl who was meant to be replacing me has dropped out so she's expecting me to carry on paying rent. its impossible though as i don't have a spare £350 per month. we are in a joint tenancy so if she doesn't pay rent next week, i will lose my share of our £700 deposit as they'll evict her and take it out of that so it looks as though im going to lose quite a bit of money
i wish i never met her and i never signed this stupid contract :banghead:
Threaten her with that chestnut and see where it gets you.
The above only applies if you don't actually owe rent. if you do then sorry.
:yes:
The rent is no longer your problem.
You need to make clear to the electricity company what the situation is to stop them from chasing you or issuing any charges. Don't just expect it to go away.
I thought that you had given notice on the flat, but if not then you need to sort out the tenancy. You need your name off that tenancy no matter what this other person at the flat is doing. Don't arse about with it, and don't let the letting office fob you off with any shit.
If you signed a joint tenancy then you are liable for the rent until the end of the tenancy. One of the clauses will be 'joint and several liability' which means that if one of you doesn't pay the rent, the landlord can chase either of you. Ironically this could also mean that you have to pay the full rent if your ex flatmate doesn't bother paying. Giving her notice isn't enough to get you from the tenancy agreement unless you find a replacement.
The same thing applies on the utility bill and it's unlikely that the utility company will allow you to remove your name from the bill. It's worth telling them what's happened and getting your direct debit cancelled though; they're more likely to go after the ex-flatmate as she's resident and you're not.
You owe the money for the rent so it's a tough one. Someone can generally use money paid to repay any money owed, although if it was given for a specific purpose then there can be legal arguments about it. It's unlikely to be theft, though, immoral as her actions are; if you're on the tenancy agreement then legally you owe the rent.
Where you been?
the end of the tenancy is up in a few days though.
i only signed a 12 month contract.
the letting agency is claiming that we are both jointly liable for the rent on a rolling contract until we both decide to leave. it mentions nothing about a rolling contract in our contract though.
is this correct? because if it is, it means im never going to get out of it if she never finds a new tenant
agency is ringing me tomorrow. if they say i need to stay until she decides to give notice im gonna throw that in their face, urgh.
they said they are going to get advice from their legal term based on what i have said.
they have told me though that they wont start eviction proceedings for at least 2 months so all in all, i could get screwed over for thousands of pounds when im not even living there. so my housemate can stay there for a few more months rent free despite whether or not the contract has been broken and we'll be taken to court
im going to drop in another letter of written notice but
ive just been a bitch and told the agency she has a cat which is breaking our contract because im simply just out of ideas. i just dont know what to do.
i cannot afford to be taken to court. i dont want a ccj which will stop me getting a mortgage in future. me and my boyfriend are planning on getting our own house within 2 years.
hellpp :crying:
id lose my job now as i work in insurance and the job ive just applied for says you can't have any ccjs.
this isn't fair. she's just being a btich and refusing to move out :crying:
what have i done to deserve this? i gave her 3 months notice. i told her i was leaving as soon as our tenancy was up.
To me it would seem that if you had a fixed term contract that has lapsed and you are on a rolling contract then you should be on a 30 day notice period, with no obligation to provide any further rent etc. I think you are allowing yourself to be led on a bit by the people around you who are taking advantage of the fact that you don't really understand the contracts.
Any tenancy can convert from a fixed-term tenancy into a rolling tenancy, known as a periodic tenancy, if the tenants don't leave at the end of the agreement. In a periodic tenancy the notice period for the landlord will either be one rental period or two, depending on the contract, and you have to give notice of at least one rental period. A rental period for most tenancies is a month, it depends on how often you have to pay rent to the landlord.
I don't have faith that the agency knows what the law is either, none of the agencies I deal with ever seem to know their arse from their elbow. It doesn't surprise me that this one is any different, I've lost count of the number of times I've had to get really pissy with incompetent letting agents.
In all my years of money advice I'm yet to come across a job where a CCJ is a bar to employment. It can affect some sensitive financial positions, but I know solicitors with CCJs. A CCJ can affect your ability to get credit in the future, but only for six years until it disappears from your record anyway. And, even more to the point, if you pay up the day before the CCJ is processed then nothing shows on your credit reference file anyway.
Depending on how the landlord gets you both out will depend on whether a CCJ is awarded. If they use the accelerated procedure, known as section 21, then they need to make a separate claim for unpaid rent against one or both of you. Most agencies wouldn't bother doing this, and you serving valid notice to quit could be a defence to the CCJ for any rent due after the end of the fixed term.
If you're in low paid work ring Community Legal Advice on 0845 345 4345 for specialist housing advice, or give Shelterline a call. Most CABx have a waiting list of somewhere between 5 and 10 weeks at the moment. I'm not able to go into it in any more detail than this from home.
Mostly been at work dealing with stuff like this all day :razz:
unfortunately, i have shot myself in the foot. i never handed in written notice. ive been stupid as i knew at the time i should have done. im now tied in for another month's rent. i didn't give them written notice as a new girl was as far as i was concerned moving into the property, she'd paid the agency fees and i told them i was moving out. everything was sorted.
everything might be ok as i think my flatmate is going to get someone else in this month. she has found someone who is interested in moving in on the 20th but until a new contract is signed, i can't be certain of anything. i dont earn enough for two sets of rent so any rent that isn't paid will have to come out of our deposit. rent comes out of her bank account as its just one rent payment - its joint. i transfer money to her and it comes out of her account. how could they chase one or both of us for any outstanding debt? surely if its a joint contract, they'll chase us both for 50%? seems unfair otherwise if one person gets away with it.
regarding the ccjs then, if you pay BEFORE the court date, are you ok? im NOT having one of these on my file. im going to do everything i possibly can to avoid it even being taken to court. like i said, me and my boyfriend want to buy our own house together in early 2011 as ill have paid off all my debts by next year so the fact a ccj stays on your file for 6 years sounds awful to me. theres also the fact that a ccj marks your property and my boyfriend would not be impressed at all if i damaged his credit rating by this happening!!!
grrr, this is just stressing me out so much. just want to be free of the place
its there in black & white in the eligibility requirements that anyone with outstanding ccjs will be rejected
anyway, she has actually paid the electricity bill off now. i think she just said that to me because she was angry/upset/being a bitch. i rang up the electricity company today to check.
at least thats one less thing to worry about
now just the whole flat thing to sort out
Have you told them that you are moving out though?
i rang up the electricity company last month and told them i was leaving. they closed our joint account, sent us a final bill and set up a new account in her name only.
yaay well that's something