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Has anyone tried Gamma-Butyrolactone? I heard about it in the papers the other day referred to as liquid ecstasy. I did a few searches on the internet but would ideally like some actual user reports on it.
The article said it's popular in the UK yet i've never seen any about?
Thanks. Dan.
The article said it's popular in the UK yet i've never seen any about?
Thanks. Dan.
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never tried it as its meant to be addictive and is fairly cheap, i dont think i could trust myself with it
readily available online, from what i can gather its simliar to alcohol.. sounds promising!
It is very cheap indeed. You can buy it easily online at the moment, although the goverment is going to be changing the law at some point in the near future so it cannot be bought by the public.
The effects are mostly similar to alcohol - it's a depressant, so it makes you feel drunk/floaty and slows down your thoughts and reactions. It can be fun in the right circumstances.
The most important thing to consider with GBL is that it's quite dose dependent. In other words, for example a dose of 0.5 ml could have a small effect, wherease 0.6 ml might have a much stronger effect. Getting the doses wrong can have effects ranging from making you start falling asleep, to putting you in a coma-like state for 3-4 hours, or worse suppressing your heart rate and breathing.
The people I know who take GBL are very reluctant to introduce it to anyone, as it can be very dangerous in the hands of someone who won't treat it with respect. I'd advise you to think very carefully before trying it. If you do, then make sure you use a pipette or preferably a medicine syringe to measure your doses. This has to be done accurately, as the difference between doses could mean ending up in A&E. Also, never mix GBL with any other downers, that is: alcohol, benzos, opiates, etc. This could lead to dangerous effects on your heart rate and breathing, and may cause choking on vomit when passed out, which is a quick way to kill yourself.
GBL can be good but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, purely because it only takes one person to be silly with it and it's all over. I had a very bad experience where I had a bottle of GBL and showed two guys how to measure out about 1.5 ml each. They decided to take about 5 times that amount, and I can tell you that was the most frightening experience of my life. I also know someone who overdosed on it and ended up in A&E where their heart stopped three times. These aren't isolated incidents either.
Exactly, I know someone very nearly killed myself on it. The dose margin is stupidly close.
anyone know the best substance to convert it out of pottasium and sodium bicarb?
take some fricking heroin.
WTF?
What's there to WTF about.. it's addictive.. it's health risks
aren't fully known and I'm sure there are risky consequences
with this drug.
Who says it isn't?
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/drugs/drugs-law/Class-a-b-c/
Scientists for another:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6474053.stm
Neither of them 2 sources mention GBL.. Neither of them..
Where are your sources?
Where is your evidence?
I don't have any but know that GBL is an immensely
addictive drug and one that can impose serious health
risks.
Might as well back-up with a soruce or two.
http://www.drugwatch.org/research/gblghb.htm
Where are YOUR sources? Where is YOUR evidence? You say you don't have any, so how can you make such claims?
There is certainly the issue with dosage, that is well known. But Heroin? I don't think so.
Look up ^^^^
I'll get you more if you need them.
liability for one to overdoes easily, quite possibly because
it's addictive.
Anybody could happily write plenty about the negative effects of any drug.
To me, this is quite obviously describing people that are either addicts or using waaaay more than occasionally. You will get bad withdrawal from MANY things after prolonged use.
WTF!? GBL being marketed as a dietary supplement?! Only in America...
The main issue with GBL is the sensitivity of the doses, which is why I agree with other posters in this thread that it should be taken with extreme caution.
Holy hell! That is just fucking stupid.
bloody hell not?
One persons perspective of a drug compared to anothers is
different, in my perspective heroin actually isn't as bad as
it's made out to be.. so that's where it comes to mind that
it can fall into the same league as GBL.
Wow - mine is that it is every bit as bad as it is made out to be.
Just to throw your own questions at you:
Why isn't heroin as bad as it is made out to be? Why not? Why the
bloody hell not?
Temper, temper. Lmao - you do need to chill out a bit.
If you want to shift goal posts, and go against what pretty much everybody thinks (scientists included) about heroin just so your views on something else fit nicely, then go ahead. You're a fool though.
but you never caught it.. aw well.
I say heroin isn't as bad as it's made out to be because
it's the people that use it that tend to be the bigger problem.
They over induldge in it and same can be said for GBL.
Maybe I'll get critcised for this but I believe anyone has
the strength to say no to a life of hell through drug
addiction.
eejit i mean who the wants to have to read
when you're typing like this it just looks
stupid as fuck mate
you didnt come across as humourous, more that you're postin with somethin stuck up your hole
don't see how gbl is all that different from alcohol tbh, has many of the same traits, main difference being it is cheaper and comes in purer form
you're doin an awfully good job of blowing stuff out of proportion and comparing it to heroin is just plain daft
temper.. hehe
I didn't mean you should go directly compare GBL with
herion, I did say that if you go as far to start taking GBL
you might as well try herion.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right who's to say which it is.
It certainly does. You just have to wash it down quickly.
im not to sure about drinking it, ive had small quantities a couple of times but am too worried about what it does to my health liver/kidneys. anyone got any experience with gbl 99.9%?
gonna convert it to ghb and see how that goes down
Surely it would melt/whateverthefrigtherightwordis the capsules?