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The uncomfortable face of Police coercion
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/mar/01/kingsnorth-power-station-climate-camp
Again, another story about the police - not senior officers, not the top brass - rank and file officers, acting in a deliberately heavy handed, cynical and vindictive manner - see also this;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/01/civil-liberties-conference
Trust in the Police service is valuable resource, one that is being squandered by the spectre of surveillance (don't think we're quite at police state stage yet, but its not impossible that we should get there) and heavy handedness.
Again, another story about the police - not senior officers, not the top brass - rank and file officers, acting in a deliberately heavy handed, cynical and vindictive manner - see also this;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/01/civil-liberties-conference
Trust in the Police service is valuable resource, one that is being squandered by the spectre of surveillance (don't think we're quite at police state stage yet, but its not impossible that we should get there) and heavy handedness.
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Whenever I switch on TV programmes about the police all I see is drunken idiots fighting in the street with an ever thinning line trying to stop them.
Whilst I might agree with the OP about Kingsnorth, I don't agree with you. People are getting angrier, people are drinking more and becoming more violent.
You can't arrest a violent drunk person with reason or persuasion.
I agree.
So the police should behave more and more heavy handed?
These programs show that drunk people in general get treated very badly by the old bill - often where the drunk person is angry it is only because the police have treated them in a way that would get anybody upset (drunk or not).
I undertsand that the police work on a friday and saturday night is filled with drunken trouble makers but that isn't justification for the police to behave like cocks towards all innebriated people.
It's not just drunk people anyway. I watched episodes of roadwars where coppers have pulled of a 17 year old moped rider for looking at them funny - and when he was upset that he'd been pulled over for no reason they gave him a seriously hard time.
I'm not saying all policemen are like this, but as an institution its fucked up. You get cunts in all walks of life granted but the the police force should an institution that tries it's damn hardest to root them out, and it doesn't. There's too many cops on a ego trip.
The police have a duty to maintain order, that can only be done by using force.
Yes, some cops act like utter twats, but most don't. Their reward for acting with restraint is normally a good kicking or a fabricated complaint.
Agreed. I wasn't referring in the original post to that, although I accept this wasn't clear; I think that people accept that part of society has gotten out of control (literally). For my part, a couple of years experience working the first aid at a big club in Birmingham during Saturday and Sunday nights certainly convinced me of that.
What is of concern is that it seems that there are instances of a culture in which the Police are increasingly willing to overextend and excessively apply powers (such as terrorism legislation) to deal with civil protest, disobedience and general peaceful resistance to things that increasingly we are seeing that it is neccessary to act against..
There are more 'twats ' than there should be.
Because of the nature of the job and the extra power it brings it's quite naturally attractive for cunts on a power trip.
If there's one institution that should be rooting out the bad eggs it should be the police, but they don't do enough.
With the police all complaints are treated as fabricated. It's at the heart of why the institution is so fucked up. I made acomplaint and was fobbed off over and over again. I had inspectors round just to try and blag me away from goign tot he police complaints commission. In the end I caved in, but I regret it.
I won't call all police scum because I know they're not, but it's an ocupation that atracts bad people and there are a disproportionate amount of cunts int the force.
I've yet to hear anything good come out of the Met for instance.....