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Let potential nutjobs into the UK, says Goldsmith.
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That disgraceful stain on the integrity of the USA, Guantanamo Bay, is finally set to be shut during 2009. The soon-to-be-sworn-in President Obama (whose constant talk about "change" made him sound less like a presidential nominee and more like a homeless person) says as much. Everyone can agree that this place was an abomination which should never have been allowed to exist. There's just one little problem - what to do with the hundreds of people who've been detained there for all these years. Some of these people, to say the least, are a few olives short of a pizza.
Which brings me nicely onto Gordon Brown. The magpie of British politics seems to be desperate to ingratiate himself with Barack Obama, presumably hoping he'll bask in Obama's reflected glory. Therefore, it's more than likely he'll do exactly what Obama tells him to do. Isn't all this rather curious? For years, people complained that Blair was allowing the UK to become too close to Dubya's USA. Now that they've got one of their own going into the White House, they seem to have gone very quiet. Funny that.
Already, some countries have told the USA to fuck off - Australia being one. Ours hasn't. According to the Beeb; "Britain should take some Guantanamo Bay inmates if it helps the US close the Cuban detention camp, former attorney general Lord Goldsmith has said. Lord Goldsmith, who negotiated over the release of Britons at the camp, said he understood concerns over the proposal. But the existence of the camp had damaged the West and 'it is in our interest to see this closed as soon as possible' he said."
Lord Goldsmith? Ah yes, I remember him. He was that wankstain who used to be Attorney General a few years ago. A man who has a tendency to change his mind on big issues. March 7th 2003 - he said that the Iraq war might be illegal. March 17th 2003 - actually, the war would be totally legit and above board. He thinks that we should take them in. Give it ten days and he'll change his mind...
So what do you all think? I personally think we should join the Aussies in sticking two fingers up to Barack Obama and the USA. Guantanamo Bay is their fucking problem, not ours. We should keep well out of this.
Which brings me nicely onto Gordon Brown. The magpie of British politics seems to be desperate to ingratiate himself with Barack Obama, presumably hoping he'll bask in Obama's reflected glory. Therefore, it's more than likely he'll do exactly what Obama tells him to do. Isn't all this rather curious? For years, people complained that Blair was allowing the UK to become too close to Dubya's USA. Now that they've got one of their own going into the White House, they seem to have gone very quiet. Funny that.
Already, some countries have told the USA to fuck off - Australia being one. Ours hasn't. According to the Beeb; "Britain should take some Guantanamo Bay inmates if it helps the US close the Cuban detention camp, former attorney general Lord Goldsmith has said. Lord Goldsmith, who negotiated over the release of Britons at the camp, said he understood concerns over the proposal. But the existence of the camp had damaged the West and 'it is in our interest to see this closed as soon as possible' he said."
Lord Goldsmith? Ah yes, I remember him. He was that wankstain who used to be Attorney General a few years ago. A man who has a tendency to change his mind on big issues. March 7th 2003 - he said that the Iraq war might be illegal. March 17th 2003 - actually, the war would be totally legit and above board. He thinks that we should take them in. Give it ten days and he'll change his mind...
So what do you all think? I personally think we should join the Aussies in sticking two fingers up to Barack Obama and the USA. Guantanamo Bay is their fucking problem, not ours. We should keep well out of this.
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Also I believe the UK called the the place to be closed as early as 2006l
And Australia is a very poor example of SG, one of the most close minded countries in the world when it comes to letting people in.
What would you do then? Where would you have these perhaps innocent people go?
I think that the UK could learn a great deal from Australia, particularly on the topic of immigration. They certainly don't tolerate illegals attempting to get into their country, for instance. (Aladdin will soon come along and mention the boat full of people who were trying to get into Aussie Land a few years ago, no doubt) But the Australian decision is fair enough. Why should they take in foreigners who might well be a threat to their country? Whilst I disagree with the blanket ban imposed by the Aussies, I think it's an understandable step.
I see no reason why the UK should have to take in people who have no links whatsoever to us. And doing it simply because the hip new president of the United States wants us to would be even worse.
WTF?
Anyway.. These people should be returned home - whichever country that may be.
No I think it was a hilarious joke playing upon the different meanings of the word "change": You see, Barack Obama used it in the sense of "things need to change", but if some scallywag with a propensity for wit and a glint in his eye came along he might just find out that it can also be used in the sense of "Can you spare some change?" and decide to connect the two for ker-azy comic effect. He's shutting down Guantanamo, but boy does he stink of whisky.
This topic title is like a headline in a tabloid - it bears little relation to the story below. I'll take some of the Beeb's words for a more considered heading: "Britain should take some Guantanamo Bay inmates if it helps the US close the Cuban detention camp, says Goldsmith." Fine by me.
he could have condensed that first post by at least half, and all that would have been lost was his ferocious nastyness.
The only difference is that the media are currently (and wrongly) treating him with kid gloves, unlike President Bush whose (rightly) had a hard time from the press for most of his presidency. Much was made by Michael Moore and other Left-wing rent-a-voices about Dubya's past, about alleged alcholism and various other mud-racking. Yet these same people don't say a word about Obama the smoker. It's no mystery why, is it? As it happens, I totally agree with you.
Hmm I wouldn't go that far. If they are British Citizens we should take them back as should any other country who has citizens in Guantanamo.
you dont think they should be detained and prosecuted for their crimes?
Incidentally, if any of them wish to sue the US Government for everything they've been put through, they're more than welcome.
Even if they were, I'd still receive them with honours. It is imperative we show to the so-called leader of the free world that illegal kidnapping, imprisoment and torture will not be tolerated or condoned.