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New Barnardo's campaign

SkiveSkive Posts: 15,282 Skive's The Limit
You'll soon be seing this on TV
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7730219.stm

I think it a worthwhile campaign. Not many peole nowadays sticking up for Britains youth.
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive wrote: »
    You'll soon be seing this on TV
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7730219.stm

    I think it a worthwhile campaign. Not many peole nowadays sticking up for Britains youth.

    It's quite a random ad, but definitely interesting! Hopefully it'll work for some people somewhere!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm just really shocked that people have actually said these things about children! Wonder how many of them actually have kids.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Let's remind ourselves that this isn't the first time that Barnardo's has resorted to shock adverts for its own purposes. Last year, the Advertising Standards Authority were forced to conduct an investigation after they put out on advert where a boy told his parents and social workers to "fuck off". See this from The Grauniad. We shouldn't be exactly surprised at this...

    So Barnardo's claim they managed to find a bunch of unflattering comments about children left on UK newspaper websites, do they? Any old idiot can scour the comments that readers leave on the websites of the dead-tree press to make some kind of point. It would be interesting to see exactly where the quotes came from. I have little doubt that many of them will have been taken completely out of context here - but because it's for charity, we're meant to think it's alright. Two wrongs don't make a right, Barnardo's. I notice their chief executive claims that children are called "animal(s), feral and vermin". Many of us have similar opinions on politicians, lawyers, journalists and estate agents, yet we don't have any charities lauching campaigns to defend these groups.

    Yet for what it's worth, much of what they're saying is correct. Most kids are alright. Which is nothing short of a bloody miracle given how crap this country is when it comes to parenting. Or most other things, come to that.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    Let's remind ourselves that this isn't the first time that Barnardo's has resorted to shock adverts for its own purposes. Last year, the Advertising Standards Authority were forced to conduct an investigation after they put out on advert where a boy told his parents and social workers to "fuck off". See this from The Grauniad. We shouldn't be exactly surprised at this...

    So Barnardo's claim they managed to find a bunch of unflattering comments about children left on UK newspaper websites, do they? Any old idiot can scour the comments that readers leave on the websites of the dead-tree press to make some kind of point. It would be interesting to see exactly where the quotes came from. I have little doubt that many of them will have been taken completely out of context here - but because it's for charity, we're meant to think it's alright. Two wrongs don't make a right, Barnardo's. I notice their chief executive claims that children are called "animal(s), feral and vermin". Many of us have similar opinions on politicians, lawyers, journalists and estate agents, yet we don't have any charities lauching campaigns to defend these groups.

    Yet for what it's worth, much of what they're saying is correct. Most kids are alright. Which is nothing short of a bloody miracle given how crap this country is when it comes to parenting. Or most other things, come to that.

    I think they should scour this site and make a campaign! Could be quite hilarious....
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The thing is that there are people out there that say those things to kids, and mean it!

    And also beat them

    Even jokingly, isnt it about time that we should take the moral high ground and then when we are asking for the kids to take down their hoodies, put down their knifes and guns, we can hold our heads high and say that it is wrong to say these things about kids, rather than expecting them to play nice while slagging them off behind their backs or even to their faces.
  • SkiveSkive Posts: 15,282 Skive's The Limit
    MrG wrote: »
    The thing is that there are people out there that say those things to kids, and mean it!

    And also beat them

    Even jokingly, isnt it about time that we should take the moral high ground and then when we are asking for the kids to take down their hoodies, put down their knifes and guns, we can hold our heads high and say that it is wrong to say these things about kids, rather than expecting them to play nice while slagging them off behind their backs or even to their faces.

    This whole hoodies are criminals business pisses me off. Wearing a hoodie isn't a criminal offence, commiting a crime is. Young people wear hoodies, it doesn't mean they're criminals.
    Some young people can be just as bad at generalising other youth as the older generation.

    It does my head in. I'm no longer of the age where I get grief for no reason but I did once upon a time, and it's not something I'll forget. The problem in this country is that that the is such a division between teenagers and adults. The two groups don't socialise. Youngster groupd together and feel that elders give them far too much grief which is true, and then how can you expect the youngsters to have any repect for the adults. It's vicious cirlce.

    The youth is one of the last remaing sections of society that it's acceptable to descriminate against. Shops are alright to put up signs displaying 'only two kids allowed at any one time' or put up mosquito emitters but if were blacks there's be uproar.

    Most kids are not bad. Lets remember that.
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  • Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    piecesofme wrote: »
    I'm just really shocked that people have actually said these things about children! Wonder how many of them actually have kids.
    It's more scary that they seem to forget they were kids and teenagers.

    Also, I don't agree with the idea of calling teenagers "children" or "kids" (except in the family relational sense of course) but that's another topic.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That is the stupidest advert ive ever seen. (on UK tv)

    The message is fine and Bernados are raising an issue.. but why are the men going out and letting a few rounds off at kids? :confused:

    Its like an opposing campaign having a bunch of hoodies sitting round talking about kicking a guy to death then going and doing it, too extreme and too absurd to be taken seriously.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    One of the PSHE lessons I deliver to the kids in my schools is about antisocial behaviour and my experiences of it e.t.c.

    One question I ask them is what they define as antisocial. The list goes:
    Violent behaviour
    Drunken Behaviour
    Speeding traffic
    Criminal damage

    These are the same priorities we get reported by the adults and it's always interesting to point out that with the exception of criminal damage, adults are the ones who are mostly responsible for the vast majority of antisocial behaviour.
    When we're called to a pub brawl at 1am, it isn't to a bunch of pissed up 14 year olds, it's to a bunch of middle aged men and women who should know better.

    Over the years I've got to know the "hoodies" in the town i'm responsible for, and with the exception of 1 or 2 they're all growing up to be responsible adults. I first met most of them when they were 14/15. They now all approaching their 20's and off finding jobs or going to uni, and starting to lead productive lives. They all started out as the bunch of hooded youths that people were always complaining about.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Whowhere wrote: »
    When we're called to a pub brawl at 1am, it isn't to a bunch of pissed up 14 year olds, it's to a bunch of middle aged men and women who should know better.
    When I worked in a bar, you could always tell when it was going to kick off. And without trying to stereotype another group, it was always a bunch of blokes about 25-30, wearing t-shirts that were ever so slightly too tight. It certainly wasn't even the younger people of those that go clubbing, never mind teenagers hanging around the streets. Maybe that's just the bar that I worked in, but it is almost exclusively the age range of people I've seen getting into fights since then too.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive wrote: »
    This whole hoodies are criminals business pisses me off. Wearing a hoodie isn't a criminal offence, commiting a crime is. Young people wear hoodies, it doesn't mean they're criminals.
    Some young people can be just as bad at generalising other youth as the older generation.

    It does my head in. I'm no longer of the age where I get grief for no reason but I did once upon a time, and it's not something I'll forget. The problem in this country is that that the is such a division between teenagers and adults. The two groups don't socialise. Youngster groupd together and feel that elders give them far too much grief which is true, and then how can you expect the youngsters to have any repect for the adults. It's vicious cirlce.

    The youth is one of the last remaing sections of society that it's acceptable to descriminate against. Shops are alright to put up signs displaying 'only two kids allowed at any one time' or put up mosquito emitters but if were blacks there's be uproar.

    Most kids are not bad. Lets remember that.
    This.

    It doesn't seem acceptible to discriminate on an entire race of people based on the actions of a few, obviously sensationalised by the media.

    The UK came bottom of the table of the 21 most industrialised nations for how it treats its children in a report by UNICEF. So whilst we brand our children monsters, perhaps we are not creating an environment for them to reach their potential.
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