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go_away wrote: »
I don't understand the reasoning behind unassisted birth came about. I don't think there has ever been a time in history where women were deliberately unattended? Being at home with a midwife or 3 I get, but to go it totally alone - for what benefit if any?
I think it depends on the kind of doctor/midwife you trust. I wouldn't be so happy going to a Harley St doc telling me my baby is too big and that we should schedule the big day (ideally on a Thursday) :chin: But in one of the hospitals I did my OB/GYN-diabetes thing, I would happily put my self (and bubba) in their care. What pisses me off about the NHS is the lack of continuity of care and would rather get to know my team than seeing a different person at each appointment.
ShyBoy wrote: »
I'm a strong advocate of the epidural as a pain contorl method myself since there are limited side effects and it can pretty much numb most / all of the pain. Like you said earlier about going to the dentist without using pain medication (which I have done lol, I thought it would be over quicker...) theres no reason if we have it not to use it. But it's up the mother of course. But you go to the dentist and have the work done on your teeth even if it's not your favourite thing to do, people aren't swayed to just have the teeth removed because having work done is unpleasant. Not the same with pregnancy...
go_away wrote: »
Well, do away with all free contraception then, because there isn't really a medical need to be on it, unlike someone with angina would need GTN. There isn't really a 'medical need' for pain relief during simple things like dentistry either, just suck it up and get on with it. ECT is really pushing it on the NHS budget when they put people under general anaesthetic too, people seemed to manage back in the 1940s without it.
Illuminatus wrote: »
Stop being intellectually dishonest.
She's being intellectually dishonest because he's pretending to not know the difference when I'm pretty sure she does.
Jim V wrote: »
So, rule of thumb, always worth spending that extra few minutes to express yourself in a way that everyone can understand, or at least try to. Good debate is about including all, not excluding others with dull terminology. I'm sure there are plenty of other places that would welcome that though, just not here.