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I'm a strong advocate of the epidural as a pain contorl method myself since there are limited side effects and it can pretty much numb most / all of the pain. Like you said earlier about going to the dentist without using pain medication (which I have done lol, I thought it would be over quicker...) theres no reason if we have it not to use it. But it's up the mother of course. But you go to the dentist and have the work done on your teeth even if it's not your favourite thing to do, people aren't swayed to just have the teeth removed because having work done is unpleasant. Not the same with pregnancy...
Its a primal instinct. I remember very clearly when i was coming up to full term with Félix and just wanting everyone to go away. I was getting very stressed about everything, i didnt want anyone phoning me, didnt want any visitors and didnt want any bloody midwives coming and poking their nose in. I felt like locking myself in a cupboard, just me and my partner and giving birth alone (sort of)
Luckily Im not so much of a slave to my primal instincts that it would actually outweigh rationality at such a vulnerable time and I did actually call the midwife out in the end.
Having a big baby btw, is no reason at all to schedule a Csection in a normally proportioned woman. Growth scans are notoriously unreliable and so is FH measuring. I dont know why hospitals get so funny about big babies.
NO pain relief is without risks. An epidural hugely increases the risk of needing ventouse or a forceps delivery which would require an episiotomy :nervous:
I had an epidural with my first baby but i didnt want one any of the other times. Way to feel like a passive object while they remove a baby out of you by any means necessary
I've heard great stuff about remifentanil, it's a very short acting opiod, works as patient controlled anaesthesia so the woman presses a button as and when, and she can remain mobile, and it wears off at the end of each contraction. I don't know if they offer it in the UK.
Its not just breathing though, I know pethidine can cause feeding difficulties in the fist few days, not to mention the fact that (as you say) for me and for most people ive asked who tried it, it just made them feel out of it, but still in pain, just less in control.
Any advancement on adequate safe pain relief is a good thing IMO. Its interesting to hear about.
As a result of that my brothers were both born in elective caesareans to avoid ending up as emergencies. So there can be good grounds.
I have never had children, but I've had surgery and I think it's really important to be sure the mother understands what it's like to get over surgery.
Stop being intellectually dishonest.
You might want to explain what you mean, what you've posted doesn't seem to make any sense?
She's being intellectually dishonest because he's pretending to not know the difference when I'm pretty sure she does.
Anyway - best thing is to take the time to try and explain your objection to what someone has posted - that way real debate can take place. Using a term that only means something to you and no one else doesn't help.
So, rule of thumb, always worth spending that extra few minutes to express yourself in a way that everyone can understand, or at least try to. Good debate is about including all, not excluding others with dull terminology. I'm sure there are plenty of other places that would welcome that though, just not here.
If a point is worth making, its worth making so that all can understand it.
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She is just one gender, plzkthnx
May have to abandon budda for a POTW there :yes:
I am now pregnant with our second child and for several reasons i am more than likely opting for a elective section this time.
I cannot risk going through what we all went through last time. Mentally more than anything. It made a big impact on me and OH for quite some time after the birth. I have spoken to my consultant who has said in my circumstances after sitting and listening to the background properly and how we feel he said that he would suggest another section too.
Should i have been given the option for one the first time round? If my history was clear then i dont think i should have.
Recovering from a section is hell and beleive me i would have much rather done the pushing bit (did the rest) than go through the section.
Do i have the right to request one this time, i think so as the reasons are much greater than just not wanting to go through the pain. Which beleive me is much worse after a section. I have never known pain like it!