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Careless Driving
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Hi guys, need some help.
Well my gf does, she passed her test a few months ago and has received a letter complaining about her for careless driving from the proscuter fiscal meaning she could get proscuted. Which since she is a new driver would mean she will be banned.
Heres what happened
She was driving along, middle of road as cars were parked on her side. She was following a car in front.
The car infront indicated into a space leaving my girlfriends car in front.
She then spots a bus coming towards her, obviously thinking its his right of way.
She tries to reverse into a space to get out of the way, however she ain't quite in the space by the time the bus comes. I guess by pressure etc, she was poking out of the space a bit.
Well the bus had to suddenly stop resulting in one of the standing passangers in the bus falling and breaking her coller bone.
Hence the letter, im guessing that the bus driver took her number to save his ass.
Shes really upset over this, shes a good driver, not too aggressive or anything. I really wanna help her out and let her voice be heard because to me this sounds ridiculous.
Any ideas on what she should do? Shes phoning the proscuter fiscal first thing on monday.
Well my gf does, she passed her test a few months ago and has received a letter complaining about her for careless driving from the proscuter fiscal meaning she could get proscuted. Which since she is a new driver would mean she will be banned.
Heres what happened
She was driving along, middle of road as cars were parked on her side. She was following a car in front.
The car infront indicated into a space leaving my girlfriends car in front.
She then spots a bus coming towards her, obviously thinking its his right of way.
She tries to reverse into a space to get out of the way, however she ain't quite in the space by the time the bus comes. I guess by pressure etc, she was poking out of the space a bit.
Well the bus had to suddenly stop resulting in one of the standing passangers in the bus falling and breaking her coller bone.
Hence the letter, im guessing that the bus driver took her number to save his ass.
Shes really upset over this, shes a good driver, not too aggressive or anything. I really wanna help her out and let her voice be heard because to me this sounds ridiculous.
Any ideas on what she should do? Shes phoning the proscuter fiscal first thing on monday.
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Bus drivers drive like complete cunts standard and he was probably going faster than he should have been, but i doubt he was breaking the speed limit and the law will no doubt take the bus companys side.
Just have to wait it out and see what happens imo
I suggest getting proper legal advice on the situation, quickly.
As mist said, get legal advice ASAP.
My brother saw first hand the grizzly results when bus drivers try to assert their right of way over pedestrians
http://www.pepipoo.com to get legal advice.
If there was no collision between her vehicle and the bus then there is no accident as such and therefore she did not need to report it as an accident.
The bus driver on the other hand did have to report an accident because his sudden braking caused an injury to a passenger.
The bus may have reported the oncoming vehicle as a reason etc. and the police may simply be following up on the registration plate, but in order to prosecute they would normally expect an independent witness. Now that could mean one of the passengers on the bus.
It sounds like the road was rather narrow if a bus could not even fit through because a parked car is sticking out a little bit, and that the bus driver was probably driving too fast for the conditions, but that is my opinion.
The only way question I might ask is what happened to the driver she was following, and at what distance was she following? Generally you should not simply follow another driver when passing a line of traffic, but must judge the situation for yourself.
Too often I find vehicles follow others far too close and are caught unaware when the vehicle in front pulls in to park, in fact they often end up right up the back of the car which then cannot reverse into the space, even though they were clearly indicating where they were going.
Shes phoning the fiscal tomorrow to give her side of the story. Shes quite upset and i really feel for her right now.
I guess it'll come down to the fact that if someone else is willing to give a witness account. That'll be the clinch but I think the bus company must be threatened to be sued by the passenger and now they're trying to pass the buck.
It doesn't help that my girlfriends mother is a class a bitch sometimes and is making her feel horrible about this, christ where's the support?:no:
I just feel like going over the bus company and confronting this driver, he was yelling abuse at my girlfriend after the incident too which makes me angry(she is gonna use this in her statement). Yet i cannot do this if we all know will make the situation worse.
I feel helpless right now but my dad has advised her to talk to the citizens advice bureua(spelling?) and seek legal advice if it goes furthur.
It might be that after she says her side the whole thing may dissapear but she has to be prepared for the worst, i.e loss of license(shes a new driver and a fine)
I'll keep you guys updated.
Calvin- Your post gave me a smile lol
This is the bus drivers fault, and clearly-so. Had he been reading the road ahead, as all drivers should, then he'd have envisaged the need to stop, or slow down, for the obstacle ahead.
The fact that a passenger fell is because of the drivers actions, and his alone. No road-traffic-accident took place, as the bus was not involved with any other vehicles.
It is a matter which will be settled between the passenger on the bus, and the bus company's insurers.
It is important that the girl involved neither admits nor accepts any liability whatsoever. The bus driver is responsible for his vehicle and the passengers on it. It is not the responsibility of another road user to plan ahead for all passengers in all vehicles.
All IMO, of course.
I know nobody ever does, but thats a point worth thinking about!
:yes: And there are (where I live anyway) bars/rails tro hold on to if people do have to stand up.
I pretty second what other people have said. I fail to see what she's actually done wrong.
Also, the passenger should have been standing unless the bus was stopped. Unless it was a full bus and there were a few people standing....
should have held on tighter