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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
jim v said i could start a new thread if I had something else to add.

i've looked at that moodgym website and it seemed helpful.

but i think the source of my problems is that im not normal. i think id be happier if i were at the same mental and emotional level as everybody else. i think this is stopping me from getting on.

thanks

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think it's hard to define what the normal mental and emotional level is really. Because everyone feels differently about different things. For me, I don't tend to react strongly to grief or other very upsetting situations which is a bit 'unusual' and not what you would call normal. But that's just who I am, I've got some inbuilt emotional control thing into my brain to stop me getting too upset, so if something bad happens, I'll tense up and normally work through it.

    I think you have to set yourself attainable targets if you want to get better. For me, I could cry more :p I guess. But I'm not too disatisfied with who I am - I'm used to it. But for you, if you just say you're not normal, then I think you should look at specifically why and see if you can work on changing that so you can feel the normal range of human emotions and such. It's important to feel happy, sad, angry, guilty, etc. so if there are some you are missing out its not going to help your emotional state in the long run.

    How you do that, I don't know, but I think you do need to take a look at it in more detail because it is a problem you want to solve. You don't have to fit a mould like everyone but the main thing is your happiness, and if you aren't happy you should try and do something about that.

    Maybe seeing someone who specialises in feelings and emotions would be beneficial to you, someone like a counsellor or pyschotherapist?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ilipintt wrote: »
    i think id be happier if i were at the same mental and emotional level as everybody else. i think this is stopping me from getting on.

    What do you mean? :confused: Everyone's different.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think that you need to stop thinking about how you compare on a 'normality' scale to other people. It really doesn't matter and is clearly making you feel worse about yourself. Try to forget how 'normal' other people are and concentrate on improving your own situation in some of the ways mentioned in the previous thread - as has been said, a lot of good ideas have been floated. Once you get out there, meet new people, make steps towards finding a more fulfilling job (whilst jobseeking can be depressing if nothing comes up for a while, the mere fact of having been proactive in trying to change things should make you feel more positive and confident - you WILL get there!), you will probably find that you will have started feeling a lot more 'normal', almost without noticing it :)

    More proaction and less introspection!

    Good luck
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Melian wrote: »
    What do you mean? :confused: Everyone's different.

    i feel im not as perceptive as everybody else.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Meryn wrote: »
    I think that you need to stop thinking about how you compare on a 'normality' scale to other people. It really doesn't matter and is clearly making you feel worse about yourself. Try to forget how 'normal' other people are and concentrate on improving your own situation in some of the ways mentioned in the previous thread - as has been said, a lot of good ideas have been floated. Once you get out there, meet new people, make steps towards finding a more fulfilling job (whilst jobseeking can be depressing if nothing comes up for a while, the mere fact of having been proactive in trying to change things should make you feel more positive and confident - you WILL get there!), you will probably find that you will have started feeling a lot more 'normal', almost without noticing it :)

    More proaction and less introspection!

    Good luck

    its being normal that would make me happy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can see this going the way of the original thread, tbh.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    why is what im saying so bad?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ilipintt wrote: »
    why is what im saying so bad?

    Because NO ONE is normal - everyone has their own problems to battle, to a greater or lesser extent.
    If anything the self-harm and depression thread which was pointed out should show you just a few examples of how discontent people are and the hardships they are going through.
    You saying that everyone else is normal and has it better than you, just showcases complete lack of empathy with the struggles everyone else has in their life, whether that be of a social nature, financial, mental or medical.
    I honestly think that tinklers advice of going travelling or doing volounteering would do you good and open your eyes for your own fortunes.
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    **helen****helen** Deactivated Posts: 9,235 Supreme Poster
    ilipintt wrote: »
    i feel im not as perceptive as everybody else.

    Ok, so let's forget the word 'normal' as otherwise, as StupidGirl says, this thread will just go the same way as the other one. It has no value whatsoever in this conversation.

    But the word 'perceptive' on the other hand, that's an interesting one. Being perceptive comes with practice and spending time with people - reading and listening to their ideas is something that will massively help you to become more perceptive. Recognising these more specific issues is really important - and is a positive step - so keep it up! :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Dear Wendy wrote: »
    Because NO ONE is normal - everyone has their own problems to battle, to a greater or lesser extent.
    If anything the self-harm and depression thread which was pointed out should show you just a few examples of how discontent people are and the hardships they are going through.
    You saying that everyone else is normal and has it better than you, just showcases complete lack of empathy with the struggles everyone else has in their life, whether that be of a social nature, financial, mental or medical.
    I honestly think that tinklers advice of going travelling or doing volounteering would do you good and open your eyes for your own fortunes.

    but the people here who self-harm are normal because everyone sees them because they are normal. everyone at uni gets along and says this is because everyone else is human and because they are human its fine. but im not the same, arent i a human being too? i know because this is because im not normal like everybody else since it just doesnt add up.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Listen.

    If we're honest we'd all admit to suffering some ill health and never would any of us admit that at some time in our lives we haven?t doubted ourselves. Nobody is 'normal'; we all have gripes, paranoia, fears, doubts and sorrows, been dumped, shat upon and generally effed about.

    What Meryn said is so true. But what you need to do is pick yourself up, dust yourself down and get on with living. That is what I told myself after having a breakdown, a result of my not coping after my mum died. Get your act together, stop wingeing and toughen up, sweetie. You could do worse. You could be sweating your tits off in my country whose current mainland temperature is no less than 47 degrees. Or you could walk under a truckload of shite and be buried for all time.

    Poppi
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No one is "normal" we all have our own outlook, opinions, fears, dreams and quirks. You can't possibly know what everyone thinks or feels or the reasons for their actions as they will not disclose them randomly.

    I am a very insecure person with self worth issues, but time and time again my colleagues at work have said I must be so confident and how good I am at taking charge of situations and speaking up in situaitons.

    I really think that you don't understand that so many people have issues about themselves that they keep to themselves and don't disclose.

    If you are striving to be what you perceive as "normal" then you will end very unhappy. As so many of my very close friends have said to me, " you need to learn to love yourself".

    What is it that you feel you need to change about yourself ?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    but i bet at work it was easy for you. i no my problem is that im the odd one out and i want to be seen as normal like everybody else.
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    **helen****helen** Deactivated Posts: 9,235 Supreme Poster
    ilipintt wrote: »
    but i bet at work it was easy for you. i no my problem is that im the odd one out and i want to be seen as normal like everybody else.

    I'm sorry, but as was said in the last thread - this attitude is a really negative one and really quite upsetting for lots of people to read. Until you've actually done 'exactly' what Jim said in the last thread then we can't see how this discussion can go forward. In our opinion you need specialist support and advice that isn't going to be available on a discussion forum.
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