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This self-harm business..

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited January 2023 in General Chat
I'd just like to point some stuff out for all u people who are predjudce.
goths, punks etc are not the only people who use self harm u know it's something that I've suffered from because I was severely depressed. I wasn't influenced by any one. this was from the age of 9 years old for christ's sake. The only goth's etc who use self harm are the young impressionable teenagers who see stuff and think it's cool. I know a lot of goth's etc and they are dead against it, they hate it. They say people do it for attention.
But it's not just goth's that use self harm is it? At school I saw a lot of people who had to have councilling because they were cutting themselves and none of them were goths of and other alternative lifestyles.
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok I was gonna hold back on this 1, but I just gotta say at least Goths still see self harm qualifies as Entertainment.

    Twisted fuck up.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have to agree with you when you say that it isn't just goths and punks who self harm. I've got friends who are "ordinary" (or whatever) who self harmed because of depression.

    I've self harmed and I didn't do it for attention (even though I am a punk) and it wasn't the music or idols which compelled me to do it.

    In my opinion, there are three types of self harm.

    1, is thru depression, a thing that quite a few of the regular posters have experienced.

    2, is for attention, although I'm not dissing this because self harm is almost always related to issues.

    3, is what those sick fuck goth rockers do for a thrill.

    I know that self harm is a very sensitive subject and I especially know that marylin manson and casey chaos shouldn't promote it.
    I don't understand why so many ppl listen to that because encouraging their young and impressionable fans to hurt them self is pure evil.

    OPEN YOUR MIND...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Daze:
    Ok I was gonna hold back on this 1, but I just gotta say at least Goths still see self harm qualifies as Entertainment.

    Twisted fuck up.

    ROFLMFAO Very quick Daze.

    Lisa, maybe you haven't seen this yet...
    http://www.thesite.org/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000191.html

    Read every single post on it, and then you'll see all the arguments for and against, then if you accept our position, you're quite welcome to stay (obviously). Else if you feel that you will be set-upon and discriminated, you can leave. I have no more to say on the matter.

    DM


    I've not lost my mind it's inserted elsewhere - hence the limp.

    [This message has been edited by Turtle (edited 12-01-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Turtle:
    ROFLMFAO Very quick Daze.

    Lisa, maybe you haven't seen this yet...
    http://www.thesite.org/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000191.html

    Read every single post on it, and then you'll see all the arguments for and against, then if you accept our position, you're quite welcome to stay (obviously). Else if you feel that you will be set-upon and discriminated, you can leave. I have no more to say on the matter.

    DM


    Yeah sensed the G word this mornin so woke up...
    Gonna b relatively nice to this 1 ho.. bored of having a go at ppl... cant hit em <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think self harm has lots of definitions. surely anorexia is self harm???

    i'm not denying that women are stupid; God made us to match the men.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by whizzygirl:
    i think self harm has lots of definitions. surely anorexia is self harm???


    we're talking about cutting.

    I've not lost my mind it's inserted elsewhere - hence the limp.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Dont worry Turtle... anorexia is reccomended too <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Daze:
    Dont worry Turtle... anorexia is reccomended too <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    My bad.

    I've not lost my mind it's inserted elsewhere - hence the limp.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm not a goth, I'm a punk.
    I just have friends that are goths and there is nothing wrong with them. They don't cut each other they don't start with everyone. Usually most people ususally don't start with them (even though I've found there are plenty of wankers around who have no respect or thought for other people) They don't harm themselves and they are really funny and happy
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by BabyLisa:
    I'm not a goth, I'm a punk.
    I just have friends that are goths and there is nothing wrong with them. They don't cut each other they don't start with everyone. Usually most people ususally don't start with them (even though I've found there are plenty of wankers around who have no respect or thought for other people) They don't harm themselves and they are really funny and happy

    Then why are they classed as goths??



    I've not lost my mind it's inserted elsewhere - hence the limp.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    U don't have to be depressed and cutting urself up to be a goth. They listen to gothic music and wear gothic clothes thats all. It seems a lot of people like to discriminate them but if they came on and discriminated and other person you would all freak out. Thats why I posted this message. I only wanna know what your problem against people who are different is I'm not having a go. But dontcha think it's unfair though???
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    By the way Turtle, I read that link what was the point it just showed Daze being a T**T in an arguement. What was it meant to dofor me? It's just as bad discriminating goths as what happened to my mate yesterday and he did f**k all too.
    It's just I have friends in my group sorta thing and they range from skaters to punks to metalheads to goths and trendies. If people are nice to use we are nice to them but I get really p****d off if people discriminate though.
    Like my bf and his band are getting plenty of discrimination, some t**t keeps harrasing them. They arn't goths either.
    I agree that people should have their own veiws but most of the time they should keep it to themselves.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by BabyLisa:
    U don't have to be depressed and cutting urself up to be a goth. They listen to gothic music and wear gothic clothes thats all. It seems a lot of people like to discriminate them but if they came on and discriminated and other person you would all freak out. Thats why I posted this message. I only wanna know what your problem against people who are different is I'm not having a go. But dontcha think it's unfair though???

    Well, that link told you what our problems with goths are. Why don't you just leave it now BL. You've found a fairly comprehensive answer to your problem, now just drop the fucking topic k?


    I've not lost my mind it's inserted elsewhere - hence the limp.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My sister's LIBERTY and I've seen her with the trauma of deprssion and it ain't a pretty sight. My sister was really upset about life but she made it through in the end.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I haven't read through all the replies but I felt I had to make a comment as I have self harmed in various forms for many years. I perfectly simple terms I do it because a) I hate myself and sometimes my head splits in two with the pressure of this and b) I want to punish myself. What reaklly saddens me (and I'm sure nobody at this site thinks this, but it does happen) is that people think self harmers do what they do for attention. This is bollocks. It is an addiction and for some (me included) the only way to cope. I don't like looking at the scars on my legs and arms and knowing I put them there.
    Anyway enough, everyone take care and try to be happy (coming from me..??!!) If I can think positive anyone can <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;
    Love Rachel CitrusFruit :P

    I didn't lose my mind, it was mine to give away.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yeh i dunno what catagory u would class me as. ive been doin the shit for like 7 years or summin, and i dont think it has any direct link to the sort of petson you are. for example, i dont do what i do because of what i listen to, i listen to the music that i listen to because of the way i feel. u can catorgorise me if u feel the need to. peace <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    how can you go on about goths being fuck ups???
    and people hurting themselves for attention? at the end of the day - if they are hurting themselves for attention, that's as much as a problem as if they were hurting themselves through depression.

    the fact is, if they're hurting themsleves, then they're hurting themsleves, and it doesn't matter why, the only thing that matters is that it stops.

    i'm only going to say this now because nobody here knows me and i don't know anyone here ok, but last year i was raped. I yes, I cut myself. And I wish that someone would stop me, because itr makes me feel even worse and with all my other problems at the moment, I'm not in the right state of mind to stop myself, and it's physically damaging.

    So don't go on about goths doin it, and for attention, maybe they do actually have a problem, but like my friends with me, you guys don't know about it. because let's face it, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

    You can't judge me - YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I LOOK LIKE - but you now know that i do have a problem. So, don;t look at the person, SEE them. And see that everyone has a problem, even if it is attention seeking, it's still a problem.

    and you make it worse by making comments like that. saying that they're all fuck ups. well d'you know what - if you can't understand the fact that people do actually have problems - then you're a FUCK UP
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well said
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif"&gt; Now everyone is going to start posting about this shit again.

    Let it die.....

    *|* Chica *|*
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Chica:

    <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif"&gt; Now everyone is going to start posting about this shit again.

    Let it die.....

    *|* Chica *|*

    I just wanted to be able to make my point.

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