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Conseratives go to court to try and take £10 million off a insane man
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2662376.ece
What do you think about this story?
I certain wouldn't vote for a party that tried to take money off a man who might be insane. Bit shocked to read this story and the fact they'd take the money in the first place.
What do you think about this story?
I certain wouldn't vote for a party that tried to take money off a man who might be insane. Bit shocked to read this story and the fact they'd take the money in the first place.
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You've put a pretty special spin on the story.
Oh cut the crap DG, we all know you wouldn't vote for the Tories anyhow; regardless of this.
Besides, who's to say there isn't a devilish organisation of bestial monsters studying human weakness? Ever here of the Office for National Statistics? The General Register Office? Cbeebies? The list is endless!
However, I think its pretty shit that they took the money in the first place. Their 'policy' about refusing donations if there is doubt about the donor's capacity is clearly a load of shit
if someone wants to give you that kind of money first thing they should check is where the money came from, who is making the offer and for what reasons.
I don't care if he left the money to labour, conservatives or the green party. The fact it had to go to court in the first place is shocking enough ..
The judge reinstated his previous will which was made in 1974 at a time when there was no doubts about his sanity. Not quite the same thing .. but that will did leave the money to his son ..
Unless you're going to spoil your ballot it's pretty pointless to say you won't vote for a party/candidate based on how they get their money.
If this case has been going on for 2 years then seems funny they should use it as an election winner knowing this case is happening in the background..
I'm just disappointed any party wouldn't have looked at it and said this money is tainted and in huge dispute - let just leave it alone
When the Conservative Party were made aware of the donation, there wasn't any sign of mental illness (other than his professed love of Maragaret Thatcher). And I don't see why they should disregard his will just because the son reckons his father was mentally ill, especially as the benefactor had become estranged from his family long before the mental illness.
I know. There's plenty of better shit we could slam them for than this.
In which passage does it say he fell out with his family before he lost his sanity? I don't see anything which establishes that time line?
Exactly.
We could start with their Health Policy which will "save the NHS" but isn't actually any different from current Labour policy...
TBH If your will was being divided up, I don't think that being "upset" would rate highly in your list of priorities. "Not breathing" & "no heart beat" would be higher, don't you think?
I'm not really that concerned with whether it was the Tory's, Libs, or Labour that took the money .. just the fact any party would take it in the first place and see it through to going to court.
And of course this is reality ... a real amount of money and real actions .. whilst a party is NOT in power they can make up any policy they want - do whatever it takes to win an election... I'm sure they all say what they think voters want to hear.
I thought this was an interesting example of something very real ... I don't think many people are getting that point - what happens when an organisation is given a huge amount of money - do they take the moral ground or do they take the cash? Do they play is safe or do they not?
raflmao
I'd be cursing you from hell
Seriously though, people make wills for a reason, to see them honoured. To have it overturned by a greedy family member who has had nothing to do with you for 20 years is a bit low imho.
How do you know he is greedy and / or had nothing to do with him for 20 years?
His illness could have made him totally unapproachable .. I'm sure if he had done so well in business he'd have been a strong minded individual to begin with.
You'll have to wait and see what he does with the money to determine if he's greedy. Maybe he'll distribute it amongst the family?
Also if you do some research and look at other reports he is said to have locked up his own wife, sprinkled her with powder to show she was on cocaine.
accused his sister trying to poison him;
Said his mother was part of a satanic conspiracy,
and said his son tried to drown him by tempting him to walk along a beach at St Andrews, Scotland, on a windy day.
He also drew up a list of 93 people - including bankers, pharmaceutical directors, solicitors, accountants - all of whom were part of " an international sex-vice ring" which was trying to drug or poison him.
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/conservatives/story/0,,2192062,00.html
Again I just agree with the comments at the end of that article that the matter even got as far as the courts..
Read the Guardian's report of the same events, which goes into it in much more detail.
The son became estranged from his father in 1982, by the son's own admission. The will was made in 1986, ten years before the benefactor died (in 2005).
The will that the Court have reverted to is from 1974.
I don't have all the facts so I don't want to comment on the decision, but from what I've seen the Conservatives are quite right to try and argue that they have a right to the will.