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the age of a great lack of good music!

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited January 2023 in General Chat
I know i have very diserning musical tastes, but i do like things from all genres (oh someone told me that wasn't a word the other day :lol: ) for example, from NIN, SOAD and prodigy to john martyn, patti smith and billi holiday...

but i really dislike all the new rave stuff, emo (crap!), and the singer song writers that the brit academy and shoreditch are churning out....

i'm a sucker for a good tune, but there are very few bands i see having much longevity, and a lot of them are very meloncolic...

something big needs to come a long and kick the music industry up the arse...

does anyone else feel the same?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes. This year I've brought two or three really good albums. I can tolerate emo its the new nu-metal and will be shortlived. There are plently of good songs around that I like but very few bands/artists.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There's plenty of great stuff being made. Only thing is that you won't find it by monitoring the mainstream.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i tend not to any more, but there really doesn't seem to be many outlets for non mainstreamstuff...NME and kerrang and very commercial these days, and it's difficult for bands to promote themselves without the help of these...yes there is myspace, but without publicising the fact you have a myspace, you won't get many hits...

    or am i the only person that doesn't search for bands?

    I really like the horrors, but maybe thats because they are a college mate's brothers band...but i don't hear of many new bands by word of mouth right now. nothing of any merit is getting signed atm, and even the gig scene in london seems quite stade
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i tend not to any more, but there really doesn't seem to be many outlets for non mainstreamstuff...NME and kerrang and very commercial these days, and it's difficult for bands to promote themselves without the help of these...yes there is myspace, but without publicising the fact you have a myspace, you won't get many hits...

    or am i the only person that doesn't search for bands?

    I really like the horrors, but maybe thats because they are a college mate's brothers band...but i don't hear of many new bands by word of mouth right now. nothing of any merit is getting signed atm, and even the gig scene in london seems quite stade

    NME and Kerrang were always commercial. What's been shit about music this past 10 or years is that pretty much all commercial music is shite, too much fake gangster hip hop/rap, shitty indie music as well as pop music which has always been there.

    I think you'll find there are greater rewards for searching for new music rather than just waiting to see what the magazines, TV Channels and Charts tell you what to listen to.

    Internet is quite easy for this, download a few tunes from a recommended act and buy their album on the net at the same time or download it. Hey presto you have a new act! :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    but no one ever recomends anything that isn't commercial any more...the last thing i was told was good was reuben...who are ok, but seem a bit too much like nirvana, yet not them...

    plus i can't download anything cos this is a shared connection, and not my computer...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Download some of these, and stop whining. There's some fantastic music out there at the moment. You just won't find it in NME or on Radio 1. Of those, I can really recommend Battles. My tip for the best band this year.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    so which of these are good?

    MIA is ok, but very odd...not that that's a bad thing...
    peter, bjorn and john is very samey
    amy winehouse has talent but is washing it down the drain with heroin and wine
    Arcade fire are very commercial
    LCD soundsystem are too new rave

    i've heard the majority of those, and nothing makes me go wow...

    maybe it is me rather than the music...

    I listen to radio six (or whatever it's called) a lot and they have a lot of non commercial stuff, but the only stuff that i've really thought was good of recent was the new siouxsie sioux single and some other ancient archive stuff...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Russian Circles
    Future Of The Left
    DARTZ!

    A couple of bands worth checking out there. Hot Club De Paris are alright too.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Notice you've only mentioned the most well known artists there. Why not try some of the albums you haven't heard on the list?

    Oh and what about Arcade Fire being commercial? What are you, some emo kid who likes a band until they become popular, then denies ever liking them at all. I haven't heard Arcade Fire's new album, but I thought their first one was brilliant.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    LCD Soundsystem - new rave? :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you think that a band being "commercial" stops them being good then yeah, there's no music about at the minute. Now Neon Bible isn't as good as Funeral (they seem to think that singing quietly and then loudly equals emotion), but it's not a bad album.

    There's plenty of good stuff about, you just need to look for it, as always. It depends on your taste, though; I'm a folkie at heart and folk music hasn't been so strong for years.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i surround myself in older music because i think there is just so much good stuff out from years past i dont have time to go looking for this new-wave of music but there diffently is some brilliant new genres and a serious amount of shit that has yet to be looked through....i just find it hard to be bothered when every where u look you see these modern age musicians trying so hard to be different and original they all look exactly the same....and im not saying this about every new band or solo artist!....im just saying i find it hard to look for new modern music because the majority of it is so bland and un-inspiring!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Meh, nostalgia's not what it used to be.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    new music is the best. this year i have loved.

    new albums from Modest Mouse, The Shins, Minus The Bear, Future Of The Left, Free Diamonds, Clorox Girls, Menomena, of Montreal, The New Pornographers, Caribou, Shellac to mention but a few.

    i normally look at Pitchfork, Drowned In Sound, Stylus, Stereogum and to mates with good tastes for my recommendations.
    Scott. wrote: »
    Russian Circles
    Future Of The Left

    too right. new FOTL is probably my favourite album of the year. i loved McLusky, and this is just as good. i'm just gutted i'm missed their tour with Against Me! because of a holiday :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Please don't use the phrase 'Nu Rave', it upsets me.
    The so called 'Nu Rave' is nothing but shit Indie music with a synth and glowsticks. But yeah I agree, I can't fucking stand that shit or any other Indie/Emo crap.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    pill 'ed wrote: »
    any other Indie/Emo crap.

    What? All of it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Look. Stop being nostalgic idiots. It breaks down like this.

    There has been crap during every era of music. Even in the 60's which have strangely taken on this immortal quality to them as the time when every person who picked up an instrument was a genius, had more than its fair share of crappy music. The fact that nowadays all we hear about the sixties is good, is because all the crap has been filtered out. Call it the natural selection of music. The same way the only stuff that survives from 200 years ago is genius stuff like Beethoven, Brahms et al.

    There are great bands around these days as there have always been. The problem is that we're living during this period rather than after it. We're inundated with the crap more than the good stuff as the crap has yet to be filtered out. I'm sure people will look upon this era as favourably as any other given 20-30 years once all the manufactured pop shite (a 60s invention incidentally) has been forgotten like it should be.

    In essence, with music as with any culture, the good will out and great music will survive no matter how much crap it's put up against. I know how people love nostalgia and love to bang on about how the past is so much better than the present for every conceivable reason but it's simply not true. This period of music is as valid as any and good music will stand the test of time as good music written long ago has.

    So get off your high horses and get over yourselves.
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    Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    (I'm not talking about anyone here, it's just something that this thread made me think of)

    The common thing used to be (as far as I know) people remembering the music of when they were young as great and thinking that what the new generation calls "music" is crap. Nowadays I notice people of my generation calling the current music "crap" and thinking that their parents' generation's music was better. Is that a new phenomenon?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Get the newies from Animal Collective, Panda Bear, Of Montreal, Beirut and buy everything by Pavement. You can thank me later.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Arcade fire are very commercial
    LCD soundsystem are too new rave

    i've heard the majority of those, and nothing makes me go wow...

    Woah woah woaaaaah there, NELLY!

    Arcade Fire are very commercial? Are they chooky, they've made the entire thing themselves, manage themselves, produce themselves so on and so forth. Not one penny from their profit goes to anyone but themselves (sense a theme?).

    Tell me one other band who are as successful as them at the moment who've done that. They're as far away from commercial as you can get.

    And LCD Soundsystem isn't nu-rave at all. You're speaking in tongues missy!

    James Murphy is a braw producer and one third of DFA Records who give you the lovely Hot Chip who are equally top form.

    Go to www.isohunt.com and type in 'Indie Playlist September' - their site updates with the best torrents for new music and you will find some wee gems in there, trust me.
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    **helen****helen** Deactivated Posts: 9,235 Supreme Poster
    1983 wrote: »
    the lovely Hot Chip

    :heart:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nu-rave is such an NME pseudogenre. It's a joke that's got out of hand. LCD Soundsystem are NOT nu-rave.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Get the newies from Animal Collective, Panda Bear, Of Montreal, Beirut and buy everything by Pavement. You can thank me later.

    :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

    especially Of Montreal.

    and for the record Arcade Fire are a rare band. how can a band that have 7 members, and make use of instruments like the piano, violin, viola, cello, double bass, xylophone, keyboard, French horn, accordion, hurdy gurdy, harp and mandolin; as well as have songs against the dictatorship of Haiti, ever be considered commercial.

    they were pretty much broken through by Pitchfork before nme and mtv jumping in on it.

    great band.

    edit. the most ironic thing about the original post is that since posting Radiohead have released details on their upcoming 7th album and Oceansize released their 3rd album today.
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