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Private schools

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
Right, whats the deal with private schools?

My m8 goes to 1, and i was looking at the website 4 it, and i saw the fees n it was £10,000 a year just for tuition!!!! (not boarding or anything)

From what i'v seen these schools aren't really that much better r they?!?

I go to a comprehensive. its ok. if u do the work, u get on. So are private schools worth the money? Who's been 2 one / is at one?

If the sky that we look upon
should tumble and fall
or the mountains should crumble in the sea
I won't cry, I won't cry,
No, I won't shed a tear
Just as long as you stand
Stand by me

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  • Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Mega Poster Posts: 2,822
    omfg that is a LOT of money!!!!! university you only get charged a maximum of £1075 per year for tuition!! i dont see how paying that much money, thats like a third of my dads entire salary, before stuff like tax gets deducted, let alone living expenses and the mortgage and loans and god knows what, is really going to be that worthwhile. i mean im doing well enough in my school, i got 2 A*s for gcses, and one B, one C for a short course and the rest As and im looking to get AAB for my a levels. and i go to a perfectly nomral comprehensive school, well obviously the 6th form attached. although i do think going to a dedicated college is far better as my friends who do go to one enjoy it a lot more than i and my friends at my 6th form do.

    i have got a friend at a private school but i think he migh tget funny if i ask how much he pays for it! but i think he finds it worthwhile, but then hes never been to a normal comprehensive so how would he know? although he does want to go to oxford and gets very offended if you mention anything about it being full of the sort of peole youd associate oxford with in a bad way!!

    ill stop my waffling now.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'll have to tread carefully on this one, cos I cannot relate my experience back the UK system.

    In Australia, I wen to a private school, tuition fees $A8,000 per year. (You gotta work that into pounds, probably around £3,500).

    In switzerland, I'm going to a private NON-PROFIT international school, costing Sfr25,000 (ie £10,000).

    What are the benefits of private education: smaller classes, generally better teachers and invariably better facilities, certainly in Australia. For example, no state school I know of has it's own sports academy with 3 minor cricket fields (turf pitches of course), 2 major ovals (with stadia), two gym halls that can cope with just about any game u throw at it and all this other shit i've forgotten.

    Surely that helps, having the better facilites. Whether it's worht 10,000 squids is another question, mind you. But yeah.

    Cos i'm thinking about a brand new hope, one i've never known, and where it goes, cos now I know it's all that wanted.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Let's put this point over in a really sarcastic and biased way...

    You see, rich people are by far more important than those who have less money. Why, if society was equal we could have (gulp) people from working class backgrounds running the country and worst...they might actually give a damn about equality! gee now that would be a disaster, if the poverty gap was abolished then we'd loose power and the country would become and equal society!

    Seriously, in my opinion, private schools are just the remains of the Tripartite system (y'know, grammar schools & stuff) and I think it's a way of keeping the wealthy on top of society.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i spy a marxist view! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    aint nuffink wrong with that, its probably true. Ok, it is true. But to what extent i don't know.

    It's not fair coz ppl who go to comprehensives get classified as common and thick and i dont wanna b those things!

    If the sky that we look upon
    should tumble and fall
    or the mountains should crumble in the sea
    I won't cry, I won't cry,
    No, I won't shed a tear
    Just as long as you stand
    Stand by me
  • Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Mega Poster Posts: 2,822
    Originally posted by ~*LIBERTY*~:
    Let's put this point over in a really sarcastic and biased way...

    You see, rich people are by far more important than those who have less money. Why, if society was equal we could have (gulp) people from working class backgrounds running the country and worst...they might actually give a damn about equality! gee now that would be a disaster, if the poverty gap was abolished then we'd loose power and the country would become and equal society!

    Seriously, in my opinion, private schools are just the remains of the Tripartite system (y'know, grammar schools & stuff) and I think it's a way of keeping the wealthy on top of society.


    hehe thats quite true isnt it. i go to a normal comprehensive, well the 6th form part of it, it doesnt mean im any less intelligent or qualified than those going to private schools. okay so i have a friend who took A level maths when he was like 16 and got an A but i wouldnt want that. if i had wanted to go to oxford or cambridge, i damn well would have gone there, i would have made myself work hard and get the grades (m aiming for high grades anyway for my own personal satisfaction). but i dont want to go there for my own reasons, not coz i cant get there. it has nothign to do with what school i go to, i would have got the same grades if i went to a private school, perhaps slightly increased as the teachers might not be so crap in some places, but still basically the same.

    and drifter i hate that generalisation too, im not thick coz i go to a comprehensive!!


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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Drifter:
    i spy a marxist view! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;


    ah, good ol' communism again. Hard to avoid it innit.

    No, I just bring it up cos the more I learn about communism, especially the econimic views, the more it seems like a perfect solution from an idelogical viewpoint. But in practice, it doesn't follow rational economic or human behaviour. So yes and no. I'd become a young Commie if the damn system worked.

    Anyway...moving back on topic...

    Cos i'm thinking about a brand new hope, one i've never known, and where it goes, cos now I know it's all that wanted.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Communism, nice concept, but so is having money growing on trees, only with both concepts we know someone will fuck it up with selfish of manipulative behaviour.

    Anyway, the grammar school thing, pure elitism & meritocracy shit.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    mmmm i can c wot u mean about it being a nice "concept" basically, nothings ever going to work is it?!? lol

    there will always b rich ppl and poor ppl, posh ppl and common ppl woteva u do.

    Do u do sociology by any chance liberty? <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    If the sky that we look upon
    should tumble and fall
    or the mountains should crumble in the sea
    I won't cry, I won't cry,
    No, I won't shed a tear
    Just as long as you stand
    Stand by me
  • JsTJsT TheSite Graduate Posts: 18,265 Incredible Poster
    I suppose it is a nice 'HIGH' Life, but i fell that boarding school would move u away from reality. It must moves people away from the normal teenage lifestyle!

    PARTY ON PEOPLE!!!!!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Drifter:
    mmmm i can c wot u mean about it being a nice "concept" basically, nothings ever going to work is it?!? lol

    there will always b rich ppl and poor ppl, posh ppl and common ppl woteva u do.

    Do u do sociology by any chance liberty? <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;



    Yep, do it @ AS level <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
    Y, do u do it?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by ~*LIBERTY*~:

    Yep, do it @ AS level <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
    Y, do u do it?

    AS level too <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    ugh my cat is throwing up everywhere <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"&gt;

    sorry not relevant <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;



    If the sky that we look upon
    should tumble and fall
    or the mountains should crumble in the sea
    I won't cry, I won't cry,
    No, I won't shed a tear
    Just as long as you stand
    Stand by me
  • Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Mega Poster Posts: 2,822
    lol drifter no not really tooooo relevant!!

    omg drifter youre nearly uber!

    and this is soooooo not relevant to the topic, sorry! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well....

    I go to one and here is an insiders view <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;


    It is okay.... i would not pay the amount that my parents have to pay for it, as i do not see it as being better than some good grammer schools etc

    Some people who go to it are wasting thier money, as they would get the same grades at a comp, and would save £4,500 at the same time

    With all this, you have to look at what you are getting. U are paying for a lot of stuff which u never get or benefit from, like the grounds, or when another boarding house gets upgraded, as the one i am in is a shit hole, and yet the some of the others have been done, and that is where a lot of money goes


    Some people get a good deal out of it, some people would not get on at a comp., the stuck up pricks who have no mates anyway, and would be kicked shitless at a comp.

    I think that it is worth it IF you want the grades, get into a good boarding house, and have good staff.

    Thats just my two cents!!!


    stephen
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Surely it's not just about education, but also about environment.

    j9
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    my mum got me a scholarship to Rougemont. you have to wear a hat there.
    i didn't go after.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by SusieLovesCalvin:
    my mum got me a scholarship to Rougemont. you have to wear a hat there.
    i didn't go after.



    I'm sorry, I don't quite understand. Are you saying that you didn't take a scholarship because you had to wear a hat?!!!!!!!!

    j9
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lol @ the hat thing.

    and, so what about the environment? do u mean better facilities or better people lol

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    To be honest, I'd say that it's more to do with attitude than anything else....I mean a person who wants to do well will put in the work, and do well no matter what type of school they go too.....

    But, there are obvious advantages of private schools, for example class size. I mean, under the new AS system, at the start of the year, my psychology class had 45 people in it (not enough seats, people sitting on the floor etc), whereas i know that the local private school had a maximum of about 12!! (I'm pleased to say that many people have now dropped it so our class has about 20 people.....still a lot for an AS level course though methinks).

    I think it's hard to generalise....some private schools are very well equipped, with arguably some of the best teachers available, others are less good. Private schools (especially boarding ones) tend to offer a more intense atmosphere, for example my friend at a private school has two or three hours compulsory prep each evening, plus lessons on a saturday morning....whereas, i know that i tend to cram my work into as little time as possible, and spend the rest of the time watching tv etc <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;

    Anyway, i think i'm getting way off point (did i even have a point to begin with?!!)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Me is guessing enviroment =
      People Campus Surounding Area Social Aspect Teaching etc etc

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by j9j9:

    I'm sorry, I don't quite understand. Are you saying that you didn't take a scholarship because you had to wear a hat?!!!!!!!!

    j9

    lol, no, it was just a factor.
    i wouldnt have fit in there.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    happy go lucky, i totally know what u mean about class sizes!!!

    Some of my classes have 40 ppl in it! And the same as you, people were sittin on the floor and on other peoples desks all crammed into a titchy little room, i spose its not the ideal situation to b learnin in.

    So they had to move us to bigger room, but i think the worse thing is that u don't get the one to one attention fom the teacher that you need. e.g. you can't ask them to explain stuff coz they r tryin to deal with too many students! and 40 student in one class is pathetic for an A-level class but they don't have the staff or the rooms to make the class into smaller classes. it makes me so mad!!! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/mad.gif"&gt;

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    I wonder who she is
    Sometimes I think I know her
    Sometimes I really wish I did
  • Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Mega Poster Posts: 2,822
    i go to a normal comprehensive, well the 6th form college bit.. our class sizes are like 12 at the max, 40 ppl <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/eek.gif"&gt; thats not good <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt; some of our classes are only like 8 people. so i dont personally think its worthwhile going to a private school myself.

    Burn baby burn!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    drifter, glad to hear that my college is not the only one with such big classes!!!! as i said, luckily lots of people dropped the subject early on, to do other ones instead, but still it's not too good really is it?! i mean, they couldn't move us to another room apparently, but promised extra tables so at least everyone could sit down and work properly.... it took them 8 WEEKS to find 4 extra tables!!
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