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Masterfoods products to contain animal rennet
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6653175.stm
Just thought I'd bring this up, although the thing that got me really, I mean REALLY miffed was the ridiculous cynicism and ignorance of the Masterfood's Spokesperson.
What the hell does that mean? Whether anyone on here is veggie or not, I am sure most of us can agree that one of the prerequisites of being Veggie is that you don't eat stuff containing bits of animal. The use of the word extreme is a cynical PR exercise designed to spin this as something that is only going to to inconvenience the most extreme-ranks of the salad-munching Taliban.
A less strict veggie? Oh that would be a meat eater then...
Just thought I'd bring this up, although the thing that got me really, I mean REALLY miffed was the ridiculous cynicism and ignorance of the Masterfood's Spokesperson.
"If the customer is an extremely strict vegetarian, then we are sorry the products are no longer suitable, but a less strict vegetarian should enjoy our chocolate," said Paul Goalby, corporate affairs manager for Masterfoods.
What the hell does that mean? Whether anyone on here is veggie or not, I am sure most of us can agree that one of the prerequisites of being Veggie is that you don't eat stuff containing bits of animal. The use of the word extreme is a cynical PR exercise designed to spin this as something that is only going to to inconvenience the most extreme-ranks of the salad-munching Taliban.
A less strict veggie? Oh that would be a meat eater then...
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And I've just discovered Mars Planets. And I try not to eat Nestlé... that leaves me with only Cadbury chocolate.
Surely their sale are going to go down??
Same here, also because i have issues around meat, and food in general from when i was a kid.
I'm more interested in this
I certainly don't hold that meat is murder, but I'm struggling to think of a principle where meat is ethically superior to vegetarianism...
ETA
Unless it's to stop teenage obesity...
Yeah I thought this after posting it, I am aware of this as my auntie is one. Perhaps I should have made this clearer at the outset, but my contention is this; portraying veggies who don't eat bits of dead animal as 'extremely strict' is a misleading and unfair characterisation.
Then she isn't vegetarian.
It might be technically wrong but the every day use of the term tends to be applied to those who abstain from eating meat or fish.
I know a fair amount of veggies, many of whom are so for ethical reasons, but I don't recall any of them refusing to drink certain brands of lager because they are not vegetarian. Does that make them any less veggie? Try telling them that...
http://www.petitiononline.com/MarsWhey/petition.html
There is always a petition to sign!
As much as I couldn't give a toss if it contains animal products, I have to agree. Why switch to an animal based product and reduce your potential market. They only reason I can think of must be cost. :thumb:
I will sign the petition though
Heinz have started putting Omega 3 fish oils in alot of their products as well...it really gets to me, products which were originally vegetarian products being made non-vegetarian for no good reason :mad:
That may piss a lot of veggies off, it's like vegans who occasionally eat cheese. Ethical veg*ns get annoyed because it dilutes the cause, or blurs exactly what a veg*n is. Back when I lived a vegetarian lifestyle, it pissed me off big style that I would go to a restaurant and the "vegetarian" meals would contain animal products like rennet and even fish meat. People need to be more precise about what a veg*n is because otherwise you can live a lifestyle and not realise you are eating animal products and that's pretty unfair.
To say "I'm a vegetarian but eat fish/gelatine/rennet" is like saying "I'm not racist, but I dislike Pakistanis".
I am not saying that there is anything wrong with people not going the whole hog... But for fuck's sake don't wear a label if you aren't sticking to it. Some good is better than no good, but if you're not veg*n, you shouldn't be strutting around saying it because it looks cool or you haven't even bothered to research what the term actually means.
But like it or not the term has been adopted by many people who are not veggies for moral reasons and who don't care much if their pint of lager is classed as 'vegetarian' or not.
Isn't a vegan basically someone who has nothing to do with animals? As in, they won't wear anything made from animal fur/skin and won't drink animal milk or any products made from animal milk.
:yes: There's someone I know who claims to be a vegetarian but will eat chicken.:rolleyes:
One of the girls I went to Peru with, when everyone was asked if they were vegetarian, said "I'm sort of vegetarian, but I do eat bacon and sausages".
So...no then.
A vegan lifestyle (vegan, not veg*n) is a lifestyle which rejects animal exploitation. So yeah, no meat, dairy, eggs, honey, wool, silk, shellac ect.
if it comes from an animal, or is tested on animals... It won't be a part of a vegan lifestyle (although the medicine debate is a whooooole different story).
The beer debate is difficult, but tbh... With so many veg*n beers around, why not
Yup, gelatine... I assume this is also an issue with film rolls too which poses the question, should veg*ns be going to the cinema? As some of the money you pay to the cinema obviously filters through to the company which makes the cameras and then later to the company which provides the slaughterhouse biproducts to make the film... Unless I am being stupid and companies like Odeon use digital means now?
I also read that car tyres can have animal products in.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6673549.stm
fucking get in
"6000 people bombarded them with email and phone complaints in a week."
I was one voice in 6000 but i do feel a little :yippe: :yippe: :yippe:
It really annoys me when food gets messed about with.
Presumably some of the non-vegetarian mars products are still on the shelves though, I wonder when we'll know for sure that the mars bar we buy at our local garage is not contaminated with dead animal?
I thought you were using the asterisk as the word "vegan" was somehow offensive to you! :hyper: