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More time off for smokers?
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Therefore i dont think it should be compulsory, and down to the individual company whether they give smokers time off to quit.
I would suggest a schemme like this would only work properly if retaining your wages for any time off were contingent on its success, so if you lapse and smoke again, you have to pay back the money for time off (or a part of it at least)
That would give a big incentive not only to attempt to stop smoking but to do so seriously and to succeed....
The only reason i'd ever agree to it is if non-smokers got paid time off as well.
I deserve a pay rise as a non smoker!
Counselling for a habit done by choice should be done in a person's own time.
If someone is consistently taking breaks they are not entitled to, so they can smoke, that might need to be addressed. (Presumably by reminding them of whatever the policy on breaks is). If someone wants to give up smoking that's their own personal business and something they can do in their own time. (And whilst I don't have any stats, most of the people I know who have successfully quit smoking did so without going to a clinic).
I'm a little fed up of always hearing of people whining about smokers taking more breaks.. Where I work at least it's not true, smokers take the same breaks as everybody else. And in offices are we to believe that non-smokers never waste time on the internet? Waste company time making personal phone calls? Make a cup of tea and gossip with colleagues?
Are we to believe that smokers never waste time on the internet, make personal phone calls, make tea? As where I work they do all of the above, PLUS take regular 5 - 10 minute breaks to have a fag.
:yes: Or at least have one then have a day off saying I'm trying to quit.
At the co op smokers got extra 'fag breaks' anyway. But the managers were smokers too, so they had a smokers clique thing. Think of that episode of friends where Rachael tries to take up smoking lol.
You can't really generalise though. I did an internship a few months ago, someone there took regular cigarette breaks but he was the first person in the office and the last to leave every day. But anyway, see the second part of my previous post.
In some places smoking in offices is still common, not that many years ago it was in the UK too. Smokers were simply allowed to smoke at their desks so this problem didn't exist, I wonder if non-smokers would be happy about people lighting up at their desk? I didn't think so...
Because the anti-smoking lobby believe that people who choose to smoke should be treated as having a medical condition. Exercising the choice to smoke is in their view a medical problem - as such people should receive medical 'treatment' in company time if necessary as they might do for an actual medical condition.
It further promotes the retarded idea that all smokers want to quit and that somehow, because non-smokers are obviously much more intelligent and generally superior life forms, that they are somehow doing us a favour and that in the long run we'll thank them for their kind bigotry and 'we know what's best for you more than you do' attitude.
What a load of old arse. This country's going to the fucking dogs make no mistake.
And its not like they have to quit. Just because smoking is banned inside doesn't mean they cant smoke at all. Pfft.
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Surely giving up smoking should be used as part of their holiday?
I remember when I was working in a call centre, and the manager wouldn't let me run down and grab a banana for a snack (I was on the early shift) without taking 10 minutes from my lunchtime. Fair enough, I said, but smokers (including her) were taking 4 or 5 breaks a day and not having to reduce their lunch time. Did she accept my argument? Did she hell. I quit soon after as it was possibly the worst job on the planet.
Nice to see that she though smoking was more important than eating...:rolleyes:
Most of the places I've worked at have been fairly flexible regarding people going off to take/make phone calls, have a quick tab, get a drink, go to the loo etc. Generally I've just held on and smoked in my breaks/lunchbreak as I couldn't be arsed going outside for a literal minute to grab a puff and I didn't want to deal with all the "that's not fair" pouting of non-smokers, tain't worth it.
Just because some smokers take the piss doesn't mean they all do. Some do, of course, but then some non-smokers take the piss talking about Woman's Own around the waterfountain or grabbing bananas
Anyway, off the point, this is a daft idea. Most smokers probably wouldn't want their employer breathing over their shoulder monitoring their smoking habits - anyway. I'd rather be in work than have a day off and end up being accountable TO MY BOSS (?) for a sneaky cigarette I had when I was on a work-sponsored quit-a-thon :thumb:
But for instance when the price of Oil went through the roof recently and was over £1 a litre all of a sudden you didn't see the government but all caring and sharing and offer to reduce the 80+% or so tax that is on every drop of petrol.