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Not sure where i could have put this, but i've been wondering. Does being baptised as a christian make you a christian?
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I think it maybe technically makes you a Christian, but don't quote me on it.
I would have thought so too.
I was baptised, had first communion and went through all of the ritual, but I don't consider myself Christian. I believe it's more about a person's actions and attitude rather than sitting in a church every Sunday.
Either you believe in Christianity and you are Christian or you dont beleive and you are not, as simple as that as far as i am concerned!
I was baptised CofE. Then again, I didn't have much say in the matter, being about a month old at the time. Needless to say I hadn't formulated a proper opinion on organised religion at that point.
:yes: I think to be a tue Christian, you need to go to church, believe in God, etc.
Yep. If you're baptised then convert to Islam later in life, you can't exactly be classed as a Christian.
lack of sleep from yesterday is catching up on me
i think it's an interesting point that a child is being steered into a certain religion before they can even know anything, but they don't have to if they don't want to. I'm all for choice, i think it's unfair to force a religion upon your children because it's what you believe. But hey, i don't really see the point in religion at all - it seems to have done more damage than good.
Surely every kid gets brought up with what their parents beleive, religiously or not. Some mums don't like their kids eating sweeties or watching TV after 9pm, Christianity is probably just another way of parents bringing up their kids.
Once they hit a certain age then they'll be able to do what they want anyway.
And I agree 100% with Bri-namite's point about parents bringing children up with their beliefs, both religious and non-religious.
In fairness, normal religious people like my mum (i.e. not nuts) want their babies christened because they believe that if you die unbaptised, you go straight to hell. It wasn't cause she sneakily thought she'd force the religion on me while I was too young to object. She thought she was saving my soul.
I was born to Catholic parents, they christened me and raised me as a Catholic. When I was old enough I decided I didn't believe, and I didn't want to practice, and they were fine with that. I think that's pretty fair. Would I class myself as Catholic still? Probably not.
I guess technically baptism does make you a Christian, but it's more about banishing your original sin, and your parents/godparents promising to raise you in the ways of the church.
Kids here are about 11/12 when they have their confirmation. Which is bullshit really, as they're hardly able to properly weigh the arguments for and against following the religion at that age.
Baptisement is required I guess (not entirely sure if I feel that way about it), but in no way is it enough to make you a christian.
:eek2: That doesn't sound a little nuts to you??:crazyeyes
And who said you needed saving anyway? Suggests you were born bad...:(
Interesting comparision. Actually, you do have a point - it wouldn't be that much different to some rules parents have about what their kids can & can't do.
That's the basis of Christianity, though. Original Sin, Adam and Eve and all that malarkey...
Think it's terrible! Fancy bringing a kid up to feel ashamed and guilty (without any real reason why) right from the start...:( You'll give them a deep rooted complex!! NOT a positive way to bring a kid up IMO....:no:
Catholicism done away with that decades ago. Bit stupid how they can just chop and change a religion as they please and suddenly whatever they say becomes the new "right".
Don't confuse catholics with christians.
Ah ok, I meant limbo, reported on fairly recently, got the terms muddled. linky
Hmm
EDIT: Further down the page on that article it says "It has not really been standard teaching for decades and it has not been part of official teaching since the early 1990s, when it was omitted from the catechism - the Church's summary of religious doctrine. "Most priests don't talk about the notion of limbo anymore. There is a understanding that it just simply doesn't wash with people," says Mr Walsh."
Explains it I guess.