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Someone who takes another hostage but claims "legal authority" to do so seems to cover the phrase for me.
I`d define all declared wars as "legal murder" assuming of course, at least one person was murdered.
The point is that propaganda demonises Iran - the west isn't so innocent either.
Well murder is a crime defined by a court of law. It would be 'legal killing'. Subtle difference really.
Legal kidnapping, well, you could argue that being arrested for drink driving is legal kidnapping (being taken to a cell against your will). So yea, I'd say I don't mind 'legal kidnapping'. Although to be accurate, 'kidnapping' is a crime that is well defined by the UK courts (and I can dig it up if you want), and the actual action is just taking someone into custody / as a prisoner. If the police do it and have a standard of care they must provide, and only detain them for a reasonable period, and have detained them for a good reason, that's ok. They're all safeguards to protect our rights.
Obviously, guantanamo is different, and human rights I think are just an obstacle to the people running it. Was it bush who said the geneva convention was outdated? It's a slippery slope backwards...
Blagsta: I see your point. China carries out more executions than any other coutnry in the world, America still executes under 18s I think, Iran has it's extreme side but also it's moderate side. However, I think because this has been an incident caused by Iran, then it's natural to say how Iran are doing things wrong, rather than look at ourselves.
I only hope the democrats get in in the next election. I think much of what happens in the world will depend on the politcal motivations and leanings of the US.
Subtle in that a bunch of old guys with dead sheep on their heads give you a nod and a wink, and you too can be the Terminator.
What about failing to stop when ordered to by a "legal authority" ?
Would you mind a bit of legal kidnapping then ?
You seem to be of the opinion that certain actions are justified if they are deemed legal.
If I remember correctly, "legal excuse" are the magic words that justify the action of taking someone prisoner.
As I`m With Stupid pointed out earlier, it was "legal" as far as the Iranians were concerned.
If they had put on wigs and big red cloaks would you say they were "right" ?
I'm not so sure whether it was "caused" by Iran. I have my suspicions that the RN weren't entirely innocent.
Is there?
Call me cynical, but I think this had been planned in advance.
AFAIK, the boundary is disputed and not clearly defined.
It is disputed. It was fought over.
TBH, they are home, pretty much unscathed, so it's all good.
We'd do the same if the French invaded our waters.
Bollocks. Maybe 100+ years ago before the Entente Cordiale.
No, since it's disputed, forces like the RN should err on the side of caution and stay the fuck away from it. They should've known not to push their luck around such an area.
Anyhoo, no one got hurt, there was a lot of propaganda on both sides and the soldiers are back home safe and sound. End of story.