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University easter holiday lectures.
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Yea, I know the thread title doesn't give away much, but I couldn't think of anything better, so bear with me.
Basically there are optional courses and lectures on university now in the easter holidays, which have nothing do to with anyones degree, they are just there for information. The hook with that is tho, that it's only for girls/woman, so no males allowed.
How do you think about that? I am aware that there are still inequalities between men and women, but is that the right way? To fight fire with fire?
Not that I was very much interested in going to listen to those lectures anyway, but it pisses me a bit off, that I wouldn't be able to attend them if I wanted, just because I have an Y-chromosome or a penis dangling between my legs.
What are your sentiments about excluding other people from any kind of events (they even rented a popular nightspot I like to go too, so it just provides entrance for women for a particular night), even tho your interest is to affiliate and 'equalize' (whatever that means) both parties?
Are they even trying to find a solution or are they just petulant and trying to fight a petty war?
Input please.
Basically there are optional courses and lectures on university now in the easter holidays, which have nothing do to with anyones degree, they are just there for information. The hook with that is tho, that it's only for girls/woman, so no males allowed.
How do you think about that? I am aware that there are still inequalities between men and women, but is that the right way? To fight fire with fire?
Not that I was very much interested in going to listen to those lectures anyway, but it pisses me a bit off, that I wouldn't be able to attend them if I wanted, just because I have an Y-chromosome or a penis dangling between my legs.
What are your sentiments about excluding other people from any kind of events (they even rented a popular nightspot I like to go too, so it just provides entrance for women for a particular night), even tho your interest is to affiliate and 'equalize' (whatever that means) both parties?
Are they even trying to find a solution or are they just petulant and trying to fight a petty war?
Input please.
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We did have this debate once before with the issue of female only swimming sessions in public swimming pools, which in principle I don't agree with (though it's hardly the most important issue in the world).
Treaten to take your uni to the European Court of Human Rights :thumb:
I cant see why your uni only allows girls to attend these special lectures, perhaps they are lectures on cooking, ironing :yes:
Girls have to learn sometime
One a serious note, i dont think its fair to exclude men or women from any event, but sometimes people still try. If your motivated enough, try and embarrass the uni by writing a story for the local paper or something. Or even just talk to the vice president of your uni, and ask them to explain why its the case.
Other than that, dont worry about it. Just enjoy your free time.
Surely these should be core skills they should learn before they get to University....
You're missing the point. Would you be OK with it if you were told you couldn't go because you're a woman?
I've also no problem with women only swimming times, women only self-defence classes etc, etc. Proper equality doesn't mean that everything is equally available as it needs to recognise men and women are different...
*waits for the sexist pig comments*
I do think if this had been a boys only lecture, then it would be a different story. You would have all the girls shouting how this was sexist and unfair. But it really depends on what these lectures are about
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Like I said, I am just talking in principal. I do not know what the lectures are about and I do not complain, because I am not allowed there but the topic would greatly interest me. It's just the mentality behind that.
@GWST: I think I can spot a difference between my and your case here. Of course there are ALWAYS establishments and facilities that selectively choose people over another, so poor people aren't allowed in milionaire yacht clubs, minors are not allowed in strip clubs, etc.
but I am not talking about social discrepancies here, but the most basic form of all difference between people: sex.
And to not allow one of the two in some sort of event especially in a public educationaly facility is a bit weird for me.
I will try and find more out about the nature of those lectures.
those are my thoughts. Sexism and inequality is boo and the root of all evil from boy --> girl, but in the opposite direction it seems to be ok, and it is not helping the cause, in my opinion.
I think it can be aimed at women (or muslims, or whatever other group), it can advertise to women, it can be about things specific to women, but I just don't like the idea of anyone not of that specific group being explicitly denied access to a publicly funded event. Of course practicalities and limitations in resources may mean that sometimes it's required, but I really can't see Easter holiday lectures running out of seats somehow. And I honestly cannot think of an topic where the presence of a man would ruin it.
Then there's an argument for support groups for male rape and domestic abuse and for groups which support men who's partner has been abused domestically, rather than having them in the same group.
If there was a group for impotence I'm not sure I'd want a mixed group whilst I discussed the problems of getting it up...
In 95% of things there should be absolute equality (eg men and women should be treated exactly the same), but there's some things which should be men or women only...
(I can't say I stay awake at night worrying that for a few hours a week the swimming baths also bans blokes coming into ogle at women in swimsuits either)
I've gotta say, I've never been turned on by the sight of a woman in a swimming costume, hat and two red rings round her eyes where her goggles were.
I think the same.
At my school, during the easter holidays they have some GCSE revision classes, but you're not invited if your year 12/13 doing resits - which to me does seem a bit wrong...
I'd say the fairness of that depends on some things. If these classes are given by the school, and the people retaking the exams aren't in school anymore, then it doesn't sound unfair (though still not nice).
But if the classes are given by something else than the school and/or people retaking the exams ARE still in school, then yes it is unfair.
Yes. That means I only have about 6 weeks or so to leanr about a year's worth of work with very little help. (apart from the hour I get a week with one teacher)
That's crap. Did they actually give you anything to revise from over Easter?
fair enough, but once you're in 6th form - they don't really mean anything. Have you tried private tutoring? I got tutored for my SAT maths in year 9 because the class i was in was terrible and i wasn't learning anything. I got 6a! Was only an hour a week aswell!
Crap. Try telling that to a friend of mine who got Cs in everything and failed all of her A-Levels. And there are schools who say you need at least a B else they won't let you on the course.
I used to find a similar thing in English. We never got taught properly and many people who were there clearly didn't want to learn. I think there was a similar thing in Science and in Year 11, the teachers decided to have some sort of group where the ones didn't want to learn would be separated from everyone else, so everyone else would learn. Never learnt anything though even when that happened.:rolleyes:
Did you choose the IB in the end? 'Cause if the answer is yes, that's not *strictly* true. Higher Maths, you WILL need an A in Maths, but the others aren't as strict. They're useful though :yes:.