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Completely unfanciable. I'm going to top myself.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Instead of limiting exposure, why not increase exposure to de sensitize yourself?
    Easier said than done, how on earth do I desensitize myself??!

    An analogy - you go to a good school which is extremely academic where 90% of people get AAA or better at A-Level. You're not that clever and will at best get CCC. And normally you'd be fine with that, it's good enough to go to a good uni, get a good job etc. But because your school/environment is so academic, people ask you non-stop about what test results you got in mocks, what are your predicted grades, some people laugh at you for being "thick", the teachers are worried something's wrong with you, and you feel like utter shit as a result that you can't get A grades even though you don't want/need them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Limiting exposure to people isn't going to help you meet people though. I've just read through the entire thread for the first time and if everything in it is true then I'm really confused as to whats going on, as there isn't any logical or rational explanation.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    sorry to sound harsh but im going to say it any way:

    pull yourself together for fucks sake

    get out there and have some self-esteem. if you dont respect yourself no one will. so you havent had a shag yet? big deal - things could be worse you could have lost one of your legs from a land mine of something.

    Im probably not saying anything you havent heard before in these replies to your post and im sorry im not being very sympathetic but you've been to uni you have a dream job so thats two things to be cheerful.

    You will find some one who will sleep with you just dont be sleazy or desperate because most girls including myself find both of those qualities to be quite a turn off. Try talking to girls and act like your worthy of speaking to them and dont act like they are all in leagues above you. Confidence is always good, even if you dont feel confident try to fake it.

    I hope some of this helps, sorry if it sounds like im having a go suicide is something i feel quite strongly about.

    and anyway, if all else fails you can always hire a hooker ..
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    and anyway, if all else fails you can always hire a hooker ..
    That would defy the entire point.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    That would defy the entire point.

    Why would it defy the entire point? I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested to know. Is t because you would be paying them for a service rather than it being something that happens of their own free will?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Why would it defy the entire point? I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested to know. Is t because you would be paying them for a service rather than it being something that happens of their own free will?

    i`m guessing that its not ALL about sex, its about building relationships and gaining confidence

    which paying a prozzie, wouldnt achieve

    correct me if i'm wrong jomery x
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    That would defy the entire point.

    it wasnt a serious comment more of a light hearted comment but i didnt expect everyone to see it that way
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Why would it defy the entire point? I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested to know. Is t because you would be paying them for a service rather than it being something that happens of their own free will?
    My insecurity is that I'm unfanciable, I'm not sexually attractive. Resorting to prostitution would only reinforce that and do nothing to overcome what's getting to me.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    My insecurity is that I'm unfanciable, I'm not sexually attractive. Resorting to prostitution would only reinforce that and do nothing to overcome what's getting to me.

    I think you right with this one. Its about more than sex, its feeling attractive and feeling wanted.

    :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hey you aren't the only one that feels sexually unattractive - I'm definately not very successful with girls and yeah I can totally relate to how you're feeling (well apart from the being massively successful in business and with £100k in the bank etc.)

    I just try not to let it get me down and have fun whilst getting rejected :)

    Overall, it sounds like you're simply lonely (that it is about more than simply sex but feeling as if you're wanted) - and thats a horrid feeling for anyone to have to endure.

    I know.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery what advice would you give if someone came on here with the same problem as you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm going to keep the few of you that care up to date on this thread with any progress I have with dates etc, if you don't care just ignore this thread.

    So last night I popped into a house party before going clubbing. Was sat on the sofa and there was a girl next to me. Introduced myself and literally within less than a minute had her leaving the house party with me, I invited her to come to a bar with me.

    At the bar we drank a lot, laughed a lot, flirted a lot, then moved onto the club.

    At the club there was a bit of hand-holding, touching etc, was dancing with her then suddenly before I know it some random guy in a rugby shirt walks right up, grabs her and pulls her. And they embrace passionately. And I'm standing there looking incredibly embarrassed and sheepish, before leaving pissed off.

    So my issue is 'conversion' or 'execution'. There's no way I'd have had the guts to try and pull her last night, because of so many previous experiences where a girl had been all over me ie dirty dancing, but when I move in for the kiss she stops it from happening - turns her cheek, gives me the 'let's be friends' speech, or in more extreme cases 'what the fuck are you playing at?' etc.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    At the club there was a bit of hand-holding, touching etc, was dancing with her then suddenly before I know it some random guy in a rugby shirt walks right up, grabs her and pulls her. And they embrace passionately. And I'm standing there looking incredibly embarrassed and sheepish, before leaving pissed off.

    Million pounds that guy wasn't a random stranger. Some people are just cock teases who enjoy the attention, or flirt with someone to make someone else jealous. Don't take it to heart. But the important lesson is not to assume anything until it happens. Don't think that because you've put all that "effort" in, that it's a failure because you didn't pull her. It shouldn't be a failure if you had a good conversation with an interesting stranger. If you didn't enjoy the conversation, then that's your problem - you're only engaging in it because of what you can get out of it. It shouldn't be a failure if you're chatting and getting on with a girl and she mentions her boyfriend, or he shows up. It should just means that pulling her is a no go, but it doesn't mean that you can't still talk to her and have fun. None of this will help you pull a particular girl, but it should make you appear more outgoing and approachable, and essentially, more attractive to other girls.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Million pounds that guy wasn't a random stranger.
    He was - she arrived in town last week from a foreign country, literally only knew 2 people from the house party which is why she was perfectly happy for me to take her out for a night. When he first pulled her she was stunned as she didn't know what was happening, didn't know who she was, then succombed and put her arms around him etc, after which they introduced themselves to each other etc and I stormed off..

    Rest of your post is great, just the last thing I'm looking for right now is to meet new girls to just be friends with, I already have hundreds of them!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You're most likely to find a girlfriend when you're not actually looking for one.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sofie wrote: »
    You're most likely to find a girlfriend when you're not actually looking for one.
    I always find that's the case.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lea_uk wrote: »
    I always find that's the case.

    What find a girlfriend :D

    (only joking)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sorry I haven't read the whole thread, but if you have so many female friends jomery, why don't you ask a close one to sit you down and give their brutally honest opinion about why they think you can't seem to find a girl who's attracted to you. Or maybe a family member? When I feel unattractive I would usually ask my sister though, because *my* female friends would fib and say something like "oh the boys don't know what they're missing out on" whereas my sis would say, "well you look like shit because you work in a bar and your hair looks like you've slept on it for 3 weeks and small birds of prey have made their nest in it."

    If that's already been suggested I apologise...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    All you can do is learn from it. like if you meet a girl you check with, go to a bar, good, but a club can be tricky if your not actually on a date or sealed the deal cos if rugby shirt guy could pull her (so to speak) from you, he must of thought you were her mate. A good thing you can take from this is that she was comfortable enough around you to go to the bar and club.

    It seems from what you said you were getting on, also this posts seems quite different to the others. It sounds like you were relaxed laid back but not expecting anything to happen, perhaps you should hold on to that attitude the next time you meet a girl.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My condolences on what happened that night Jomery. That totally blows. My problem is that I don't want to go through the rest of my life avoiding folks and not being able to socialise with someone. That sounds as though any future jobs that I get will be unpleasant because people then will have no reason to regard me with anything other than sarcasm and contempt and no respect. (Because unfortunatley, there seems to be no such thing as a job where you don't have to interact with people hah) I'm not blaming it all on other people btw, I see it as a sort of chicken and the egg type thing. To be honest I'm sick of the blame culture thing.

    I wish there were a way to address and sort out these things which I feel are what's holding me back, if there were some way to go about turning these things around I'd like to know:
    I am 20 and do not drive, still live with my mum, have never smoked cannabis, have technically only been drunk once, (!) don't drink alcohol often, don't have even a single friend or a social life, don't smoke, don't go out anywhere, have not kissed a girl since I was about 8 years old, have never travelled abroad on my own, have not been on a holiday since 2001, etc etc. Now how do you think people will react to finding all of this out? They will simply not understand.
    This thread is annoyingly repetative now.
    So u can't get a bird. Get a cat.
    Cats aren't going to solve his problems.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Halloween wrote: »
    Sorry I haven't read the whole thread, but if you have so many female friends jomery, why don't you ask a close one to sit you down and give their brutally honest opinion about why they think you can't seem to find a girl who's attracted to you.
    I do it a lot and the responses piss me off so much more. The same female friends who say "How can you still be single?", "You must have so many girls wanting to be with you", "You're a great catch", "You're an absolute legend", "I love you to bits", "You're a good-looking guy" are the same ones who tell me they just don't personally fancy me and can't give me any concrete criticism for what's holding me back. Today in fact one on MSN said I try too hard to get someone and it always happens when you least expect it, whilst on the phone a few hours later another said I don't try hard enough, I'm too laid back and not aggressive enough, if I wanted it I'd have got it... :banghead:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    deceelpool wrote: »
    Because its fucking boring, if he actually got out into the big wide world instead of moaning repeatedly on here - - he'd stand better chance of pulling!
    I have possibly the most active social life of anyone on this forum, go out 5-7 nights a week without fail to bars, clubs, house parties and the rest, and every morning when I wake up I have another 5 girls I met wanting to be Facebook friends, and friends only.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hornet893 wrote: »
    Well since you can't stop him, maybe you should ignore this boring, repetitive thread that isn't amusing you anymore (how awful for you!) . And he actually sounds like someone who is doing well for himself money and career wise, and actually sounds quite gung-ho when it comes to going out and engaging people.

    gung-ho eh lol

    Ok lets all repeatedly give the same advice, over and over again or shall we click our fingers and get him a shag?

    As its been said on many occasions - his 'acheivments' in his career and financially do not give you a golden ticket into the land of sex.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    I have possibly the most active social life of anyone on this forum, go out 5-7 nights a week without fail to bars, clubs, house parties and the rest, and every morning when I wake up I have another 5 girls I met wanting to be Facebook friends, and friends only.

    Look mate alls i'm saying is whateva 'advice' or 'ahh bless' comments you get on here are going to do you fuck all good.

    Men pulled women long before internet forums existed.

    Just get out there and keep trying, posting threads saying your going to top yourself will not help you, but will only convince a lot of people you are after more attention.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    deceelpool wrote: »
    Just get out there and keep trying
    The fact I've been out literally thousands of times in the last 8 years and nothing whatsoever's happened means I'm doing something wrong and to continue perservering is likely to be futile. Hence I'm here to try and figure out what I'm doing wrong.

    And I'm not trying to create attention, I'm being pretty serious. A lot of the time I do question what the point is in living. It's not fun. There's a lot more pain than good. I have a "dream job" that a lot of graduates envy - and it means having to wake up at the same time in the morning not lie in till midday, put on uncomfortable socks and shoes, commute to work which is a hassle, etc. When I work out at the gym it is physically painful to push myself. When it pours down with rain and I have no umbrella I get really pissed off. There's relatively little time when I'm having more pleasure than pain - having a massage, lying on a tropical beach etc, but most the time in everyday life there is more pain than gain, so I question what the point is in it all.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok here is some good advice. Please take note and actually try it!

    You need to stop focusing on meeting girls and trying to pull them. You have lots of girly mates but to be honest, they probably all think you're gay. Make some MALE friends and hang out with them, relax, have a laugh. Learn from how they behave and what they talk about. Don't be ashamed to still be a virgin. They might laugh at you at first but they won't give a shit really. Once you've started to have fun with your male mates and have stopped concentrating on pulling girls I really think that you will actually meet girls who see you as a man who they could sleep with rather than just a friend.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    simply _give up_!!! Go out with your (real) friends (make some, if it has to be) and have a good time. Fuck that obsessed looking for possible copulate partners and just spend funny evenings, that are worth speaking of. Do whatever is due to enjoy yourself.

    You'll be surprised how easy and from-itself things will work out. Stop caring, make the best of the bad bargain and stop letting it take over your mind 24/7 to make you depressed.

    Much sooner as you would expect you'll find her, out of the blue. It just works like that...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    And I'm not trying to create attention, I'm being pretty serious. A lot of the time I do question what the point is in living. It's not fun. There's a lot more pain than good. I have a "dream job" that a lot of graduates envy - and it means having to wake up at the same time in the morning not lie in till midday, put on uncomfortable socks and shoes, commute to work which is a hassle, etc. When I work out at the gym it is physically painful to push myself. When it pours down with rain and I have no umbrella I get really pissed off. There's relatively little time when I'm having more pleasure than pain - having a massage, lying on a tropical beach etc, but most the time in everyday life there is more pain than gain, so I question what the point is in it all.

    Well I'm female, I get lots of male attention, I'm rarely short of dates yet I've graduated and I'm struggling to find a job and I have no money. So I guess we all have it tough in some way or another.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    The fact I've been out literally thousands of times in the last 8 years and nothing whatsoever's happened means I'm doing something wrong and to continue perservering is likely to be futile. Hence I'm here to try and figure out what I'm doing wrong.

    And I'm not trying to create attention, I'm being pretty serious. A lot of the time I do question what the point is in living. It's not fun. There's a lot more pain than good. I have a "dream job" that a lot of graduates envy - and it means having to wake up at the same time in the morning not lie in till midday, put on uncomfortable socks and shoes, commute to work which is a hassle, etc. When I work out at the gym it is physically painful to push myself. When it pours down with rain and I have no umbrella I get really pissed off. There's relatively little time when I'm having more pleasure than pain - having a massage, lying on a tropical beach etc, but most the time in everyday life there is more pain than gain, so I question what the point is in it all.

    I can't even be arsed going into that lot of miserable, self pitying shite.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote: »
    Well I'm female, I get lots of male attention, I'm rarely short of dates yet I've graduated and I'm struggling to find a job and I have no money. So I guess we all have it tough in some way or another.
    Marry a rich man :yum:
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