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All England Club agrees to pay women equal prize money

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You could ask the same question about why there aren't more women MPs or CEOs and the answer would be the same for all, it's because we're still breaking through several millenia of male dominated society. To actually say it's because women can't do it is bollocks.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    male dominated society

    Thats basically the route of it ... everything is male dominated. How many women to coach at high level none. That purely cant be because they are not "as good" as men but just they dont have equal access and opportunity.

    So, okay pay is equal at high class profile events such as world tennis tournaments but it will take a long time to trickle down to all levels of sport and male activites ie. snooker and racing
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote: »
    You could ask the same question about why there aren't more women MPs or CEOs and the answer would be the same for all, it's because we're still breaking through several millenia of male dominated society. To actually say it's because women can't do it is bollocks.
    Which would explain why there are less women in other aspects of society, such as MPs and CEOs, but wouldn't explain why there hasn't been a single women competing on the same level as men in the examples I gave.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Pjs wrote: »
    Thats basically the route of it ... everything is male dominated. How many women to coach at high level none. That purely cant be because they are not "as good" as men but just they dont have equal access and opportunity.
    Football clubs tend to like managers who've experienced playing the game at a high level. However, people like Jose Mourinho prove that it isn't essential, so I can easily see female managers and coaches in the future, especially with the excellent training they've started bringing in for football coaches.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    okay so if you can see it for the future ... why hasnt it happened before then?
    why should females coaches be seen by Im with stupid as a thing of the future?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Pjs wrote: »
    okay so if you can see it for the future ... why hasnt it happened before then?
    why should females coaches be seen by Im with stupid as a thing of the future?
    Because it's only very recently that football has started accepting coaches (or at least managers) with little or no playing experience at the highest levels. And this country is a bit behind other countries like France and Portugal. And any female coach would be required to work her way up like her male counterparts (only top class ex-players tend to get high profile jobs straight away).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Pjs wrote: »
    okay so if you can see it for the future ... why hasnt it happened before then?
    why should females coaches be seen by Im with stupid as a thing of the future?

    Because no women are in the profession apart from maybe in the women's game.

    What you don't want is women being given the jobs just as a token gesture showing how society is moving forward. People should be given the jobs based on merit and their ability to do that job. Once a woman comes along with the capabilities then a club should take her on based on that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Women aren't actually allowed to compete in the men's competitions on many sports, and in others there is still a lot of prejudice. There are some very competent female jockeys but racing is still a very macho world. Physical differences to come into play as well, of course they do, but that isn't about skill or ability its just a fact of life.

    There have been one or two reasonably successful female motor racing drivers, though none have been taken on in F1, people like Paula Cook (before she died in a crash at Oulton Park) made a decent enough career out of the lower rungs of the racing ladder.

    You only have to look at the abuse people like Mike Newell dish out to women to see just how far sport has to come before there's tolerance, let alone equality.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote: »
    Physical differences to come into play as well, of course they do, but that isn't about skill or ability its just a fact of life.
    How isn't it about skill or ability? If it is a scientific fact that men and women's abilities in terms of certain types of manual dexterity, differ, is it not also safe to assume that this would translate into men and women having different natural skill levels in certain activities (in this case, certain types of sport)? And still, let me know why to my knowledge, there hasn't been a single female professional snooker player, for example. Because in all other traditionally male dominated fields that don't rely on strength or athletic ability, you'd at least get one or two pioneers that would break the mould.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'd say horse eventing is probably the number 1 for equality at the mo.

    Except for the fact if you're a guy doing it you're going to get a lot of action because all the horsey ladies like men with horses. Apparently.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Indeed Pippa Funnell has done so much for it winning the Rolex tripple three day events. Pays always been the same there regardless of who wins!
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