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you didn't earn your loan or grant.
I'm 27, I have no degree or A-levels and currently earn (when I can be bothered getting a contract - I like my time off, had 4 months off last year) the equivelant of around £90k.
I'll be honest, I don't really like the job any more and am looking to get out of it as I've got to the point where anybody I work with on a similar level is 40+ and the work is usually quite solitary. Very strange as I'm meant to manage people, but all the resource is either offshore or offsite so it's all done by phone or email. Not ideal as I'm a very social person. Regardless of what I get into next, the drop in money is going to be quite spectacular as I'm not qualified or experienced in anything else.
If I stayed in the role I am in now, or rather, if things progressed (I'm a test management consultant), the upper limits to what I could earn on a daily rate are around £600/day. Although, if I managed to secure a contract with hourly pay that would be a lot higher - but these are few and few between once at management level as you're expected to work longer hours and not get paid. Takes the piss to be honest as I was earning more as a test lead/engineer a year or two ago as I was being paid for the hours I was doing. I'm actually looking to take a step backwards at the moment to get back onto this hourly pay, and also to have a little less responsibility riding on me. I just can't be bothered with it any more.
I was very lucky to be in the right place at the right time when I started out - and the rest is because I've worked hard, can talk the talk during interviews, and been cheeky enough to ask for the higher rates when I should not have possibly received them.
£30/hour at 21 years old was pretty wicked - then the market crashed and I was out of a decent contract for 6 months.
Pays better as there are risks involved - but aren't there always in this day and age?
The thing I always say to people is there is always something better out there - you just have to be willing to take a risk and go for it.
I've another business plan in the pipeline which is coming along nicely but is going to take a few months to get off the ground, and a good couple of years before I'm going to be comfortably well off again. Hopefully will be worth it though and then I won't have to deal with all this IT bullshit any more!
See - just too easy to come off as a prick when being straight up (excuse the pun...) about this kind of thing.
G.
haha yeh i realise it's gonna be hard when i graduate - i'm trying not to be naive but what i mean is when i'm at a good level in the job i want to be in i want to earn £25k and then possibly be able to progress. if i get onto a training scheme of some sort after uni then i'll get around £15k a year training then around £25k after that. that's what i'm aiming for! but they're very competitive jobs.
he's a test management consultant or whatever that is!
i think £25k is my ideal because it's what my mum earns (well, £26k) and i see it as a good wage to live on.
It's a little further down the post - I'm a Test Management Consultant.
Basically, I'm freelance, and I go into companies to, erm, manage, plan, resource etc the testing for any projects they may need me to.
I'm not a technical person, certainly can't program etc etc, but you still have to have a broad grounding in a fairly varied knowledge base. Complicated as I have to liaise between the full on technical people and developers, suppliers, customers etc and be able to communicate everything at all levels. Does my head in to be honest as I don't like talking in "tech". :banghead: Plain Yorkshire is my preferred language
Most of my work is done in the (mobile) telecommunications industry. I was lucky enough to work a superb 4 months in Italy a couple of years back - just superb. I also spent some time in Munich, but I just couldn't get my head around the language and so it wasn't quite so much fun. Beautiful city though!
That's another reason I want to take a little step backwards - there tend to be travel options available at "senior/test lead/test analyst" level. I was offered a month in France, Spain and Germany last week to start in mid-Feb, but the money was about half my usual rate and I can't commit to something 1.5 months away as I will no doubt have something else lined up by then. 1 month isn't long enough to commit to...
G.
well you sound loaded! it was only yesterday i was looking at a gorgeous legacy tiffany ring and dreaming someone would buy it for me..
Aye - the travel is (usually!!) fully expensed and so you work hard, but play hard - having an expensive meal and a few bottles of cracking wine, followed by more drinks in bars on the company at the end of a 14 hour day is somewhat pleasing They usually pay for the food on the weekends too - just not the drinks. You just have to get friendly with the bar staff and creative with your receipts and you can wangle it though
Don't get me wrong, I love working in the UK - but the chance to get away for a few weeks here and there is fantastic. I've not had the opportunity to travel since Italy/Germany as the last role I had which we were meant to go to various European locations and Hong Kong was terminated due to the project being canned. Usual 1 week notice etc... They laid off 62 permies and all the consultants so it was a major cull and a shock to the industry!
Still - you move on (you get used to it - if you take anything personally you're in the wrong job in this instance) and I'd got another contract a week later so that was fine.
LOL!!
Yeah, Accenture is the kind of company I would sometimes work through - Acutest, Tescom Intl are a couple of others. To be honest, I usually prefer to go direct as you are more in control of your own destiny. There are so many rules and regulations going through these consultancies (including always being suited and booted) that it can strangle things a bit.
Going direct you go straight in, do your job, report directly to the powers that be, and often get away with wearing funky casual clothes. Much more my thing
Legacy Tiffany ring, eh? Randomly I have a pair of solid silver cuff-links done by a chap that designs things for them. The bull and the bear - a stock market thing. He did them by hand! Not seen him or that circle of friends in a long while though. Bit posh for me!!
That's a bit of a bugger! You *have* to milk it somehow!!
It is quite pretty!
I think I would have to see it in front of me, or rather, being worn before I decided if it was slightly too flashy for my tastes (obviously not that I would be wearing it hahah) - but yes, it does look very nice and I'm sure it would make the most of you
ETA - Looking at it again, that's the kind of piece that you would simply *have* buy several new outfits to go with! It wouldn't be right to waste it with too "normal" an outfit, would it?!
You sound like you'd be an expensive girly to date
You know *exactly* the way to a man's heart!
You know I found that picture, but couldn't find any details.
I'm going to tentatively say around £5k - but my knowledge of women's jewellery is limited at best!
It's a pretty big stone there too...
Well... They are reported to be a girl's best friend, eh?
So am I! :flirt:
Can't believe I stayed up on here when sober! :eek2:
Bloody fancy jewellery!
i'm currently job hunting now i've finished uni
but unlike some people who finish uni, i dont expect to get a 30K+ job straight away, i know it wont happen as i have no "experience"
so in the next year i'm expecting about 14-15k a year to build up my experience
Without getting further qualifications it probably won't go up that much more, maybe to about £20k tops.