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Biker claims compo after killing 12 y/o
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In my opinion, this is a toughie..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/6215351.stm
On one hand, as a parent, the thought of some cunt claiming compensation after my child had died makes me literally sit here and shake with anger.
But on the other hand, this guy, someone elses child, and from the report we are told, a responsible rider, has had his life basically fucked up by this kid running in front of his bike.
Now I know kids play chicken, we've all done stupid shit like that..... but I mean, this guy HAS been dealt a hard hand, I cant help but see the fairness in it.
But I am still torn, morally.
What do you think?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/6215351.stm
On one hand, as a parent, the thought of some cunt claiming compensation after my child had died makes me literally sit here and shake with anger.
But on the other hand, this guy, someone elses child, and from the report we are told, a responsible rider, has had his life basically fucked up by this kid running in front of his bike.
Now I know kids play chicken, we've all done stupid shit like that..... but I mean, this guy HAS been dealt a hard hand, I cant help but see the fairness in it.
But I am still torn, morally.
What do you think?
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The parents dont pay the compensation.
I wasn't calling HIM a cunt, but I bet the parents are, that's what goes through my mind thinking of someone doing that with my child involved, as a first instinct..
ETA Cheese on Toast, the accident was the boy's fault, not the motorcyclist's, so I don't see why the parents should think him a cunt.
Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority (CICA)
I do think that the CICA should pay out for the injuries, but to be honest I think that the biker's insurers should be paying out along with the parents insurers instead.
I'm not impartial to this issue. I ride a bike, and have already had an accident when a stupid fucking bitch decided to cross the road between two parked buses looking the other way. She literally materialised in front of me and I sent her 6 feet into the air.
She had some damaged ligament on her leg and was on crutches for a couple of weeks. I had a bruised leg though nothing serious, and some serious scratches on a brand new bike. I toyed with the idea of suing her for the cost of repairing the bike but was told there is little point as pedestrians are the 'untoachables' of the road and it's all but impossible to sue them for anything.
Then incredibly the fucking cunt went and sued me, claiming she had looked carefully before crossing, that I appeared at high speed from nowhere and that even failed to stop (despite me crashing to the ground and remaining there). Her claims were only dismissed because one of the bus drivers saw it all and testified. This despite her apologising as she was being loaded in the ambulance and declaring to the four winds 'sorry it was my fault'. There is an ambulance-chasing solicitor out there whom I would very much like to meet...
In short, pedestrians are not liable for anything, don't have insurance, are practically never at fault in the eyes of the law and yet act more irresponsably than any other road user, do whatever the fuck they want and don't even look properly when they cross the road. It's high time the law changed and the lemmings were made liable for their actions.
Excuse me?
So a pair of kids are pissing around on a road, where vehicles are in motion. This guy suffers rather enormous injuries, and almost certainly a written off vehicle as a result of a stupid child - why is it heartless for him to chase compensation? I would. It's unfortunate that the child died, but if he was willing to risk his life for some mindless fun playing chicken with tonnes of metal moving at high velocity, then he deserved to die if he got it wrong.
Don't get me wrong - it's a tragedy, but there is absolutely no reason for innocent parties to be punished. We're all stupid when we're young - unfortunately, this young lad came a cropper. Doesn't mean the chap using the road in the correct manner and completely blameless in the 'accident' should be punished for what happened.
Why? The bikers insurance is there to protect other people. Many motorcyclists ride on third party insurance only, and are not entitled to claim for their own injuries.
Technically, in my mind, the parents of the two children should pay. Though I do think such actions would be unfair and unjust to the parents after losing a son - the guy on the motorbike was not at fault here, and should not be financially punished for his wounds and the trauma inflicted.
I can only imagine what the biker feels!!
How do you figure that?
Some kid did this to my dad, but luckily the kid wasn't too badly hurt. It's a horrible thing for someone to do to a driver. The driver must be thinking "what if i'd swerved?", etc.
I hope he takes them to court and wins
I've experienced two boys running out in front of my car and having to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting them and when I looked in my mirrors I saw them running back and forth across the road. If I could have safely pulled over and caught them I'd have probably given them a good shake.
Had I had to slam any harder I'm sure the cars behind me would have smashed into the back of me
there should be barriers at certain places to stop people just running across the road and there should be better education from schools and parents on the matter .. so yeah the kid died .. real shame but in this instance the biker seems to be the real victim here.
Why should this guy be out of pocket?
As it is I'm sure he has nightmares every single day.
This isn't a case of a kid trying to cross the road and getting hit by accident, they were deliberately waiting for a car to approach and running infront of it.
Parent's Insurers??
Care to explain what insurance the parents might have that covers their child from running out infront of a car?
If the Biker paid for 3rd party then that's what he gets ... to me I'm totally shocked to read a biker's helmet costs £500 - I at least hope their VAT except.. and if not such important safety devices should be.
Unfortunately, the kid in this is the 'cunt'. Luckily he did not cause the death of anyone else through his stupidity. I am very sorry that he died but I am more relieved that the biker wasn't killed because he is the blameless one in this. I hope he gets his compansation.
Well, who else should pay?
He shouldn't be - it wasn't him who was in the wrong.
Would anyone`s opinion change if, ALL other circumstances unchanged, the bike rider was found to be over the legal alcohol limit ?
The biker is either entitled to compensation, or he isn't. Where the compensation is claimed from is redundant, so I fail to see exactly what you misunderstood - hence I still made the post.
Are parents not responsible for their children any more? Who else is to blame in this instance? The way I see it, if the youngsters were left unattended and were stupid enough to play chicken on a main road, then they were neither old enough, nor responsible enough, to be let out of their parents supervision. The fact that they have been, and have caused serious physical harm and financially-penalised an innocent person makes come to to this conclusion. Do you arrive at a different one? If so, please explain why.
Yes. Whilst the accident may or may not have occurred if alcohol was not present in his system, he shouldn't have been on the road if under the influence, and the fact that alcohol was in his system means there is the real possibility that it hindered his reaction time and decision-making ability.
For me, it'd swing the blame 60% onto the biker and 40% onto the deceased, rather than the 100% currently allocated to the deceased.
When I was little every single day there was adverts on TV showing kids how to cross the road, these days the last announcement I've seen regularly is how to call the coast guard, I don't even live near the sea .. it's far more likely you'll need to know about the dangers of traffic then of the sea in London.
Most school kids are pretty stupid when it comes to crossing the road, when I go to the gym I need to drive past about 2 schools, as soon as I start getting closer to these schools I turn on my headlights. Why .. because kids are so dumb they just run out infront of you without even looking, turning on my headlights is the only thing I can do to make my car more visible to them. I drive under the speed limit and as carefully as possible but kids don't want to walk the extra few meters to the crossing sections.
Also school uniforms are stupid, most of them are black, black from head to toe. black shoes, black trousers, black blazers, not exactly the most visible colour there is.
reflective material should be built into the cuffs of every school uniform. We have the technology these days to prevent so many accidents, it's about time we started using it.
I've taken steps to make my car more visible on the road including upgrading the headlights with bulbs that give 30% more light then standard bulbs so I can see that little bit further. But if some dumb kids decide to run out in the middle of the road on purpose then there is little more I can do.
Of course in the eyes of the law, I imagine he'd be completely fucked in that case.
Only the top top top of the line ones with race markings on. A good sound helmet can be had easily for £100...
When someone has done something wrong I think they deserve a punishment, but I don't care where it comes from. If someone grabbed a gun and shot at random, not intending to hit anyone, but someone got killed and the shooter clearly felt guily about it, I would be against them being given punishment by a judge.