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Family splits cause social problems - Tory report.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    But these are very unfashionable concepts to the Left-wing mafia that run this country, so we will probably continue to go down this route to social meltdown.

    You're not mistaking Labour for a left-wing party again are you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote:
    You're not mistaking Labour for a left-wing party again are you?
    Do you have anything to say on the topic of family breakdown? Or is this just another one of your distraction strategies?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Do you have anything to say on the topic of family breakdown? Or is this just another one of your distraction strategies?

    Distraction strategies? That makes me sound a bit more machevelian than I am.

    I said earlier that I thought that couples counselling should be available on the NHS, which I thought would help more couples deal with issues, or worst case situation break up in the best way possible.

    Frankly I dont think tax will really do much, people dont get married for those reasons (or at least not many do anyway).

    An increase in the social housing budget wouldnt go a miss too.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote:
    I said earlier that I thought that couples counselling should be available on the NHS, which I thought would help more couples deal with issues, or worst case situation break up in the best way possible.

    An increase in the social housing budget wouldnt go a miss too.
    Now that's more like it! I'd agree with both of those ideas. I agree the state can't force couples to stay together, but they can at least try to help them out slightly in the financial stakes. Looks like you and me aren't that far away from each other on this, Mr B. ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Now that's more like it! I'd agree with both of those ideas. I agree the state can't force couples to stay together, but they can at least try to help them out slightly in the financial stakes. Looks like you and me aren't that far away from each other on this, Mr B. ;)

    Frankly I cant really take anything you suggest seriously given your opinions on torture. But thats not related to this thread.

    Its all about money though isnt it, and the government doesnt have unlimited amounts of it. I think improvements in social housing would definitely pay for themselves, and possibly the counselling too, but it would be a hard sell to the public.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote:
    Frankly I cant really take anything you suggest seriously given your opinions on torture. But thats not related to this thread.
    Your love for me is undying, but never mind. :p
    Its all about money though isnt it, and the government doesnt have unlimited amounts of it. I think improvements in social housing would definitely pay for themselves, and possibly the counselling too, but it would be a hard sell to the public.
    I suspect it wouldn't be that difficult to sell. The counselling, for example, would only be attacked by two different groups.
    (1) Daily Mail readers who think that counselling is the ultimate example of a "cotton-wool" culture. You know, the sort of people who frown at the sight of people having a hug in public. Probably haven't had sex since 1958, that sort of person.
    (2) Daily Mail readers (again!) who think that counselling is a waste of money, bearing in mind NICE won't fund Alzheimer's drugs that would cost £2.50 per patient, despite the fact that you can get this on the NHS in Scotland. Which, whilst the drugs in question should be available, doesn't mean counselling is a waste of resources.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Your love for me is undying, but never mind. :p .

    Not really, I just think your views on crime and punishment are unrealistic and inhumane, I dont think you've a fucking clue.
    stargalaxy wrote:
    I suspect it wouldn't be that difficult to sell. The counselling, for example, would only be attacked by two different groups.
    (1) Daily Mail readers who think that counselling is the ultimate example of a "cotton-wool" culture. You know, the sort of people who frown at the sight of people having a hug in public. Probably haven't had sex since 1958, that sort of person.
    (2) Daily Mail readers (again!) who think that counselling is a waste of money, bearing in mind NICE won't fund Alzheimer's drugs that would cost £2.50 per patient, despite the fact that you can get this on the NHS in Scotland. Which, whilst the drugs in question should be available, doesn't mean counselling is a waste of resources.

    NICE has to make judgements, and often they are difficult, but the NHS cant pay for everything. As for Scotland, well thats a seperate matter, they can only afford all that because the South-East of England pays for it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm With Stupid wrote:
    OK then, but this is far more interesting than single parent families.

    No it has nothing to do with single-parent families, your just digging.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    freeallangels19 wrote:
    No it has nothing to do with single-parent families, your just digging.
    Yep. Your point? :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm With Stupid wrote:
    Yep. Your point? :p
    His sexuality has nothing to do with it. Hes bi, so what? Who quite frankly cares apart from the bitches on here. The point is breakdown of families is causing the lack of structure/respect in society.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    freeallangels19 wrote:
    His sexuality has nothing to do with it. Hes bi, so what? Who quite frankly cares apart from the bitches on here. The point is breakdown of families is causing the lack of structure/respect in society.
    Because he just dropped it into the conversation, and last time he was on The Site he was straight. Just a point of interest, for God's sake. Don't stress over it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm With Stupid wrote:
    Because he just dropped it into the conversation, and last time he was on The Site he was straight. Just a point of interest, for God's sake. Don't stress over it.

    I'm not. I already knew. I'n not even going to start down this route, its not my place to say anything.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    freeallangels19 wrote:
    I'm not. I already knew. I'n not even going to start down this route, its not my place to say anything.
    :confused: Well I didn't already know, so I asked him. I don't see what the big deal is. It's just like if you're talking to a friend, and they mention something about themselves that you didn't know.
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