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Jackson Pollock fans delight
**helen**
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Thats cool!
I saw some of his "work" at the Tate Modern recently.
Well, pretty much so.
people who dont understand anything about art make comments like that.
I understand quite a lot about art having studied art history at school. However, I do not consider a bed, or a tent with some scrawlings on them art. It is just shit, talentless and meaningless.
I love the story about the guy who dropped his wallet in the Tate Modern. When he went back to it, a crowd had formed around it, staring pensively at it. When he picked it up, an usher came and told him not to touch it until he pointed out that it was his wallet. Kinda says something about your average modern art hack doesn't it.
You see, I would have done what Pollock did but sadly as he's considerably older than me, he got there first.
I like art where you can actually see some discernable talent. As I write, I glance to my right and see my lovely dog-eared Edward Hopper book lying on my desk. Now there's a guy who could actually paint. Him, Hockney, Grant Wood and Goya are my favourite artists. Them and Banksy.
You might not like something, but that doesnt mean its not art if the person put it together creatively.
Opinion, subjectivity, take your pick.
And how does someone put something together uncreatively?
And what is art?
Blind sweeping statements like that need some clarification if you're going to use them in your argument.
That ^ . I dislike this, I think it isn't art too. I fail to see the talent or anything put into it. I am going to enter my first car in the tate modern once I finish with it, all full of rubnbish and beat up. See if anyone buys it for a fortune. Hope so.
http://departments.vassar.edu/~jamundy/Everyone1.html
Though of course, the letters, messages, etc aren't readable at this distance - you had to go inside to read them.
How is it not art? You may not like it - but I'm not sure what else it could be - after all isn't all art the expression of an artist upon an object - whether it's a piller of stone or a tent.
After all the idea that art is just about an exactly representation of reality, or had to only be 'nice' to look at pretty much died out in the renaissance.
anyone can write a load of words.
A messy bed is something a teenager can do, it's not art. Painting an 4mx6m canvas blue is what a painter and decorator does every day. It's just not art, it's pointless.
Writing generally is a load of words. And sometimes, there are dots, commas and all sorts of other weird shit.
Yeah, give x number of monkeys x number of typewriters and they will eventually produce the complete works of Shakespeare. After all, it is surely just a set sequence of letters and spaces?
Shakespeare is absolutely fantastic. His skill with words is unparalelled (well, apart from by Cervantes), his storytelling, the plots, the nuances, the jokes. Calling Shakespeare just a load of words smacks of gross ignorance.
So what's to stop me crapping on the floor and then saying I consciously created it as a way to express myself through the medium of faeces? Is that art? Is it fuck.
By the way, anyone feel like being 'wrapped up' by "Christo?!":)