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Robbers attack "for kicks"
BillieTheBot
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Given the actions of the two despicable creatures who went on a rampage of violence, resulting the murder of a man, it's hard to keep maintaining that these people do it because of "poverty". The proof is that they do it for fun, they do it because they enjoy hurting people and enjoy killing people, and they do it regardless of financial benefit.
Therefore I think its time to stop treating these people with compassion. Robbers who use weapons should receive life sentences, and should only be eligible for parole when they can prove beyond all reasonable doubt that they are no longer a danger to society. If they can't prove that they should never be released from prison.
These two creatures (I hesitate to use the word people) should be kept in solitary confinement for the rest of their days, being only fed the bare minimum to keep them alive. They stole life for fun, and so their lives should be taken in punishment. I would suggest execution, but that's too good for them.
On a wider scale, what can we do about it? Punishment only works once they are caught, it doesn't seem to stop people. Ambition and compassionate programmes don't seem to be working either, as violence soars and gun and knife-carrying soars. The cultural background of these murderers isn't a coincidence IMHO, but what can we do about that when condemning the violent culture is seen as racist?
Thoughts?
Given the actions of the two despicable creatures who went on a rampage of violence, resulting the murder of a man, it's hard to keep maintaining that these people do it because of "poverty". The proof is that they do it for fun, they do it because they enjoy hurting people and enjoy killing people, and they do it regardless of financial benefit.
Therefore I think its time to stop treating these people with compassion. Robbers who use weapons should receive life sentences, and should only be eligible for parole when they can prove beyond all reasonable doubt that they are no longer a danger to society. If they can't prove that they should never be released from prison.
These two creatures (I hesitate to use the word people) should be kept in solitary confinement for the rest of their days, being only fed the bare minimum to keep them alive. They stole life for fun, and so their lives should be taken in punishment. I would suggest execution, but that's too good for them.
On a wider scale, what can we do about it? Punishment only works once they are caught, it doesn't seem to stop people. Ambition and compassionate programmes don't seem to be working either, as violence soars and gun and knife-carrying soars. The cultural background of these murderers isn't a coincidence IMHO, but what can we do about that when condemning the violent culture is seen as racist?
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But your last sentence disturbs me. What do you mean by 'violent culture'?
I mean the violently misogynistic and homophobic culture that many black people seem to be growing up in- one where all the big black music names sing about nothing but killing gay men and beating up women.
When the MOBOs were disrupted because of this music being glorified, the people responsible (such as Tatchell) were attacked as being racist pigs for not "embracing the culture".
We all know that rehabilitation and the probation service is being run into the ground so it can be privatised. It needs a lot more money to be able to do its vital job more effectively.
And perhaps we need to look more into the issue of sectioning people if they exhibit signs of being violent and a danger to the public. But then the mental health budget could do with a big increase too.
Mental health is gonna be sold off soon enough too.
Who could disagree with Group 4 doing it, they are doing such a good job moving prisoners around Scotland, they havent lost one for a whole month.
I have great faith in group 4 running the probation service. So much so I'm buying lots of shares in bulletproof vest companies as we speak.
The thrill of violence, glamourised so much in our culture, seems to be a huge problem.
Still, they have wasted a good life and now their pathetic existence should be wasted in turn. I would propose execution (it seems to be the only solution to people like this- if they were dogs they'd be put down, and they're not human enough to have rights) but its too good for them.
Fair enough.
Extreme music doesn't help. Neither do violent films or video games.
I agree with Suzy Creamcheese - all the things above are under the umbrella of extreme capitalism
It rained over the weekend perhaps we should blame that on capitalism as well.
:rolleyes:
Its nothing to do with economics. I could equally as wrongly suggest socialism with its breeding of jealousy towards the better-off is to blame. Of course that would be bollocks
For as long as human society has existed human beings have been happy to inflict pain and suffering on each other whether its dressed up in the fanciful language of a better world for all or because you don't like someone's skin colour or because you fancy yourself the hard man and do it for a pair of trainers and a stolen mobile phone
I don't think that we can blame capitalism for the fact that whilst sex is banned from our TVs to "protect the children", we still have programmes depiciting violence on every day.
Personally I am not sure that TV is really to blame either, but it's a factor . I'd love to argue the point with anyone who believe that sex shouldn't be allowed on TV but doesn't complain about violence.
This has more to do with discipline, the "strong arm of the law" and respect IMHO.
Partly true, but also they do it to win the support of the viewers, and keep thier loyal customs so they are seen to be doing something - even if sex isn't allowed, they still show violence 24/7 - this is a lack of moral structure, and a sign of capitalism - win support and do anything you like!
TV isn't to blame, the collapse of modern culture is to blame - a sign of capitalism indeed. People watch violent entertainment all the time - heavy metal and rock ahs been singing about subjects that this erm, "black" music has been singing about for YEARS - drugs, sex, abuse of women, and living a harder and worse lifestyle than the perpetators of this "black" music that apprently causes problems. They've sung about murders, pyscos, and all sorts.
I don't see the problem with rockers and metal fans in gangs roaming the streets. Why? I don't know. So why do the people into this rap/r&b/whatever it is, calling it "black" music is easier - feel the need to roam the streets doing this? I fail to see Kermits argument it's about thier culture - if it were true, we'd have Metal Fans recreating the Kasso murders.
It's still tripe music though.
The law should be strong, but I should point out - capitalists don't like the law. It stops profiteering. Capitalism goes hand in hand with liberal society - and hence less law and more "freedom" even if it results in muggers nad murders doing it for fun and power play.
The law should have extreme power over these people. Preferably the power to place a bullet between thier eyes.
:thumb:
Although I`d remove the first 8 words and add "some"
Mutha fucka Gerbil wants to pop a cap in everyone`s bitch ass tonight.
I do no such thing to peoples mothers.
Sometimes we need to cull the heard
*yawn*
Communists- people who are happy to break into someone's house, beat up the family and violently "redistribute" (i.e. steal) their possessions don't like the law either...
You could argue that these people are communists- violently redistributing the latest Nokia from the rich to the poor. But that would be stupid.
Yeah, that would be my description of a communist as well Kemit
I heard that to be initiated they have to throw a pan of boiling oil into a child's face.
:rolleyes:
I assume you're referring to the Russian Revolution of 1917.
In which case you're right, I withdraw my last statement. The fact that a revolution in a brutal society involving communists 90 years ago involved violent actions illustrates that communists throughout history are happy to break into people's homes and beat up families.