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boyfriend's birthday and a STRIPPER HELP

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    She's making a huge deal out of it, which shows how insecure she is, she will be like this over other things too i'm sure. Look at how mant times she says how upset she is and she feels sick, she's dreading it so much, those are bad signs.

    A high self esteem girl would be like what lipsy said. No one likes to have a very attractive person rubbing themself all over your partner, but people who are high self esteem are comfortable knowing it's all in good fun.
    why do u keep sayin she is makin a huge deal out of it?

    she hasnt said "if you go its over" or "you are NOT going"

    she has simply said how she feels and that its upsetting her, she isnt makin a big deal or being a head fuck

    i trust my fella 100% and although i dont have what you call high self esteem, i certainly dont consider myself to have low self esteem, but i still wouldnt be comfortable with it

    i`m sure if it was just a night out to a few pubs or clubs, she wouldnt be arsed, she doesnt sound possessive to me
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think, if ever he was to get annoyed with her over this possesivness, that would crop up.
    if she was possesive she wouldnt let him go out with his mates full stop

    she is gettin upset about a "big thing" not somethin simple like him goin the pub to watch the footy!

    my fella goes out without me a lot, i dont mind, i would mind a naked/half naked woman sittin in his lap and dancing on him, does that make me possesive?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    She's making a huge deal out of it, which shows how insecure she is, she will be like this over other things too i'm sure. Look at how mant times she says how upset she is and she feels sick, she's dreading it so much, those are bad signs.

    A high self esteem girl would be like what lipsy said. No one likes to have a very attractive person rubbing themself all over your partner, but people who are high self esteem are comfortable knowing it's all in good fun.
    not everyone has high self esteem. And just because someone has low self esteem doesn't mean they lack a sense of humour or don't know how to have fun. Stop making such huge assumptions.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ballerina wrote:
    not everyone has high self esteem. And just because someone has low self esteem doesn't mean they lack a sense of humour or don't know how to have fun. Stop making such huge assumptions.
    here here x
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Littleali wrote:
    a headfuck? she told him how she feels, nothing more nothing less, hardly headfucking

    headfucking would have been for her to say "yeah u go, i`m cool with that" then ignore him for weeks or ended it because he upset her

    and not all lads resort to sleeping with other women when their gf is bein a pain (Which i dont believe she was)
    exactement!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I merely said that she should deal with her insecurities instead of asking her bf to stop doing xxxx. Instead of only listening to things that make her feel better.
    u keep goin on about her bein insecure...why?

    and she didnt ask him to stop doin anythin

    man, i`m goin round in circles.... :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    but people who are high self esteem are comfortable knowing it's all in good fun.
    so what was this about?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ballerina wrote:
    so what was this about?
    the more of ur posts i see, the more i agree with the ppl in ur sig :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    AND one more thing

    even if she IS insecure, dont u think he should be more supportive? rather than feed her insecurities by havin a stripper?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Littleali wrote:
    the more of ur posts i see, the more i agree with the ppl in ur sig :thumb:
    thanks :blush:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think she should deal with her own insecurities.
    being insecure wasn't part of her question though. If she wanted to know about dealing with insecurities she would have asked.
    Like i said, not everyone is going to be thrilled about a stripper peeling her clothes off in front of her boyfriend. It doesn't always mean they're insecure, possesive or a headfuck.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It does if they react so bad they feel physically sick and dreading the day he has his birthday.

    maybe thats worrying a little too much. But some people get more wound up/worried than others. Lets not label her before we hear the full story. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm being an asshole because I don't like the post she made rejecting peoples opinions of her being insecure. It shows she's just looking for something to take the bad feelings away because she knows she's being silly.
    maybe she is being silly, but who are we to say? She may have her reasons to be worried that we don't know about. There's no need to jump down her throat.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The thing is, any argument people have made for it being ok to go to a stripper, are the same argument anyone could use for a prostitute. Your bf is hardly going to run off and have a relationship with a prostitute, so why would people be funny about that?
    I know its not exactly the same, but its still only different degrees of the same thing. Some are ok with it, others arent. Each realtionship has its own boundaries, and just because someone gets freaked out by the thought that their boyfriend is going out to get aroused and danced to by naked girls masturbating in front of him or on his lap, that doesnt mean shes necessarily over the top insecure. She MAY be that, but not all people who are anti it, are insecure.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think he should find a high quality woman and make her his princess.

    good point.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    wow guys

    i didn't ask for personal attacks.
    first of all... i'm not insecure... i actually have a really high self esteem.

    im not afraid of him going out, i never make a deal when he goes out with his friends, i trust him around girls. i'm not afraid he's going to leave me for a stripper, no shit. its the fact that i have a problem with a girl rubbing herself on my boyfriend...

    look at it this way... if she wasn't getting paid for it, no one would expect me to be ok with it. why is it ok b/c she's getting paid?

    i didn't tell him not to do it, i just told him how i felt about it. yeah i got myself worked up about it, i wasn't PHYSICALLY sick i just felt sick about it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    look at it this way... if she wasn't getting paid for it, no one would expect me to be ok with it. why is it ok b/c she's getting paid?
    good point tbh
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    look at it this way... if she wasn't getting paid for it, no one would expect me to be ok with it. why is it ok b/c she's getting paid?
    Because if she wasn't getting paid, then the chances would be that she's trying to get in with your boyfriend. If she's getting paid, she's just doing her job.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Because if she wasn't getting paid, then the chances would be that she's trying to get in with your boyfriend. If she's getting paid, she's just doing her job.
    same as a prostitute?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    same as a prostitute?
    Same principle yes. It depends on where the boundaries are in your relationship, but the point is that both a stripper and a prostitute do have clear boundaries (well theoretically prostitutes do anyway). Obviously if you have a different idea as to what is acceptable than your partner, then you're gonna have a problem.

    You also need to ask what the exact problem is. Is it just the physical contact? Because it's acceptable in my opinion to only feel comfortable with a certain amount of physcial contact (I think most people would draw the line at sex with a prostitute tbh). If it's the fact that he finds another girl attractive (which I presume would be the problem in the case of just watching strippers rather than getting a lapdance) then you have more of a problem. Because your partner is going to find other people attractive.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well thats true. I mean im going by the way I personally feel here. I dont feel like my bf would leave me for anything, even if he had sex with someone else tbh, I still would feel our relationship was more special than that, but that doesnt mean id be happy about him going out and specifically courting sexual attention off others and paying them to arouse him, whether he went as far as to have sex, or whether he just watched them masturbate whilst they danced on his lap. Thats my view. I feel pretty secure about our relationship, but my boundaries on fidelity maybe more strict than others, I dont know. He feels pretty much the same way as me though. Maybe were both incredibly insecure but just dont realise it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The thing is, any argument people have made for it being ok to go to a stripper, are the same argument anyone could use for a prostitute. Your bf is hardly going to run off and have a relationship with a prostitute, so why would people be funny about that?
    I know its not exactly the same, but its still only different degrees of the same thing. Some are ok with it, others arent. Each realtionship has its own boundaries, and just because someone gets freaked out by the thought that their boyfriend is going out to get aroused and danced to by naked girls masturbating in front of him or on his lap, that doesnt mean shes necessarily over the top insecure. She MAY be that, but not all people who are anti it, are insecure.

    I totally agree with you here.

    Different people have different boundaries, some things are fine for some and not for others. Problems only arise when people have a different opinion. I would hate the idea of my girlfriend going to see a stripper. If my girlfriend thinks the same way and sees it as unacceptable, then fine we don't have a problem, if she thinks it's fine then we do, but isn't that the same as everything? Some people are in 'open' relationships, in that case the girl would happily see her guy go off and have sex with another girl. Nothing wrong with that, but if he wanted ot go off and sleep with other girls and his girlfriend thought that to be unacceptable then there would be problems.

    I look at it as being three situations, either you both agree that it's fine/not fine and there's no problem, you disagree but come to some arrangement and make allowances for each other, or you can't resolve your differences and end up going your seperate ways.
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,283 Skive's The Limit
    The thing is, any argument people have made for it being ok to go to a stripper, are the same argument anyone could use for a prostitute.

    And the same for porn?

    Blokes like looking at naked girls. That aint ever going to change and it doesn't mean he doesn't love you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    its not as if this guy is habitually going to see strippers though. its just a bit of fun for his birthday, which his mates are organising. i've seen a guy receive a lap dance from a stripper at a party before. everyone stands around laughing - its hardly intimate! nothing to be worried about imo.
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,283 Skive's The Limit
    Strippers at bash's like that are very likely to embarras him anyway.
    We had one for a bloke not to long back where she stripped him down to his boxers and led him around the floor on his hands and knees by his own belt.
    Of course there was the customary whipped cream on her tits that he had to lick off but it's all just a bit of fun.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive wrote:
    And the same for porn?

    Blokes like looking at naked girls. That aint ever going to change and it doesn't mean he doesn't love you.
    well yeah for sure. Porn is another degree of the same thing I agree. If one person loves it and the other has a real problem with it, then youre gonna have some problems come up, which you either talk about and work through, or go seperate ways.
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