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Does not having a kid stop you from getting about or having a job?
I wouldnt go so far as to suggest that IVF should be totally stopped on the NHS, but having kids isnt a right. Like with all things we have to ration treatment.
Indeed. And BMI doesn't take build into account either.
A right no, but a fair chance yes.
As for the poor people bit, if no ivf was paid for then poor people wouldn't be able to afford it therefore some poor people can't have kids.
He's not on about rationing, which i agree with, but stopping it all together which i think would ne unfair.
Of course it doesn't stop you getting a job, but as someone who doesn't have alot of money and we both work. We wouldn't be able to afford IVF if we needed it.
apart from the rationing of the service. anything that will discourage people from becoming obese will help.
if you cant see your toes and not a sumo wrestler, you need to cut down on the pork pies.
Problem is that BMI is a very poor measurement of that.
There is a natural bond between parent and child which cannot be made my adopting no matter how much you love them. Whats so wrong in wanting a child of your own?
theres no right to have them though......
people need better guidance on when they or heir partner start becoming infertile, not have more ivf treatment - this is the cause of the main surge, people delaying having kids
imo being a parent is a duty more worthy than any career, other than possibly foster parenting or adopting or being a doctor/nurse, way more than any financial career definetly - it is a pity more people value their careers over a potential family, and all the heartbreak that IVF treatment brings
you seem to think that people wanting kids who are infertile is weird. People aren't stupid, they know being a parent is a duty. Whats so wrong about wanting kids if you're infertile?
My cousin recently got married and his wife is infertile and they don't know why. They've just had IVF and now she's pregnant. I'm delighted for them. I doubt you've had experience with IVF?
If your partner was infertile and you wanted to be parents....would you really just shrug it off?
nothing wrong with wanting to be a parent, but its not a problem that requires subsidy and shouldnt be available on the NHS, they can have a kid from IVF if they really want, but if they really want they can pay for the treatment
i've read a lot about IVF and how it works, and the success rates per cycle are low to say the least it seems where 3-5 cycles of which cost approx £3000 - and strangely being only 21 and im male i have had little personal experience of IVF, not that it matters
no but i would realise that it is not a right as per given, and me and my partner would have to fund it - then again i would consider saving that money from the doctors and getting a kid from an orphanage in a war torn country of which there are many, many of whom need care and support
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3516941.stm
As mean as it sounds, adopting/fostering can't really compare to having your own child.
But what if people can't afford private treatment? They should at least be given a chance first.
Just for the note...my cousins wife got pregnant first time.
Agreed.
Not too sure that I agree with the NHS giving a cycle of IVF for free. Why should they, when it can be spent on improving the health service?
As for this proposed ban, I'm all in favour of it. And before anyone tries to demonise me as being "nasty" or applies some other nonsensical charge, let me explain. I'm a firm believer in personal responsibility. If you're really that desperate for a baby, the least you can do is lose a couple of pounds.
well shes in the lucky 25%
Can being too overweight affect your fertility the same way as being too underweight does?
Probably. But I guess they're thinking more about the woman's health than whether she'll get pregnant.
I just think it's unfair that people who are infertile have to pay to try/become pregnant. However i do agree that the times its done on the NHS should be limited.
My point was just that for women who are healthy and are just unfortunate to be infertile...then why shouldn't they be given the chance?
I do agree that some people are waiting too late but this is not the only reason people need ivf, infact its probably a small one. Some people just need a little help.
i just don't see why people should be denyed the chance if its available.