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another day another dodgy law passed in parliament....
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So the government has again decided it knows what's best for us, and decided to criminalise possession of violent porn, punishable by 3 years in jail no less.......Story.
Now I'm no fan of violent porn and what happened is grim but I don't see how this law will prevent something like this happening again, and to me this just seems like the latest in a string of dodgy legislation that appears to be harmless and on the surface with good intentions, but this quote sums it up for me:
Shaun Gabb, director of the anti-censorship organisation the Libertarian Alliance, said: "If you are criminalising possession then you are giving police inquisitorial powers to come into your house and see what you've got, now we didn't have this in the past."
So what does everyone else think? Don't give a shit because you don't own violent porn, or like me a bit worried that this is the thin end of the wedge? I mean how long before they ban animal/anal/ gay porn .....? :nervous: *joke* But seriously, these kinds of laws mean the authorities can come into your house on any dumb pretence and do what they like, to me that's wrong....
Now I'm no fan of violent porn and what happened is grim but I don't see how this law will prevent something like this happening again, and to me this just seems like the latest in a string of dodgy legislation that appears to be harmless and on the surface with good intentions, but this quote sums it up for me:
Shaun Gabb, director of the anti-censorship organisation the Libertarian Alliance, said: "If you are criminalising possession then you are giving police inquisitorial powers to come into your house and see what you've got, now we didn't have this in the past."
So what does everyone else think? Don't give a shit because you don't own violent porn, or like me a bit worried that this is the thin end of the wedge? I mean how long before they ban animal/anal/ gay porn .....? :nervous: *joke* But seriously, these kinds of laws mean the authorities can come into your house on any dumb pretence and do what they like, to me that's wrong....
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Don't get me wrong - I'm prim and proper, dull and boring. But each to their own - people are allowed to enjoy violent sexual activities, so long as both parties consent, aren't they?
As an aside i think under UK law child pornography includes digitally 'enhanced' pictures of adults which are altered to look like children.
so what about a kid who watches violent films, plays violent games, and then goes into his school with a machine gun and starts killing his classmates......? of course the kids didn't give their consent to be murdered that's completely irrelevant, should we now go and ban all the violent games and films out there, because it influenced the kid to kill people? that's what your saying really......some people are fucked in the head and get off on sick things then act on that, and no amount of laws will change that, other people will just watch that kind of stuff out of curiousity, and BB is right, who decides what's violent? All this law does is open the door for more extreme "moral" legislation in the future, that's why I'm against it.
I concur. What happened to the woman is tragic, but to it just seems that something is being used as a scapegoat to blame it on. (See Also: Violence in Video Games)
I get where you're coming from and I'm not comfortable with the idea either, but you have to look at it realistically, this law will not stop this kind of thing happening will it? think about it.....of course normal people will be disgusted and disapprove of this sort of stuff, but we don't need laws telling us what we can and can't do, if it's not hurting anyone else then people should be free to do what the hell they like, what makes me more uncomfortable is feeling more and more restricted each day, people can't even run around naked anymore because they're "disturbing the peace" ffs, bit of a tangent I'll admit but all this stuff is linked (personal freedoms etc....) and it pisses me off.
It might in a strange way be a good idea, there seems to be a market for child porn, and if it could be filled in this way it would be an improvement.
I'd say its not alright to have these type of pictures and if the only way to stop it is to make it illegal well so be it.
well as long as they keep it to themselves and don't act on it and noone's getting hurt, then my answer is yes. completely. let them do what the fuck they like and get on with it, if they start touching kids then lock em up but i don't give a fuck either way what people want to do with their lives is their choice, we are autonomous, able to think independently, and i don't need to be told by some higher power what is morally acceptable and unacceptable, i'll make that choice for myself thanks.
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We don't live in air trapped bubbles completed cocooned from the world around us, but in a society which gives us freedoms and also obligations. and frankly sometimes society needs to say that this action is so wrong that we need to put barriers up and prevent it.
Now sometimes I think these barriers are wrong, but in this case I'm all with Parliament and think that the Libertarian Alliance and other right-wing pressure groups are barking.
Otherwise there would be no horror movies. No action movies. No erotic movies. No war drama movies. No rap songs. No action video games. Etc etc.
You simply cannot do that. Not unless it is obvious it is mass-corrupting media capable to driving the population at large to do violent/illegal acts they wouldn't otherwise do. And I don't think that has been achieved even once in the history of mankind.
Good question. If it was done by CGI or animation, no, I don't think it should be banned at all. Disgusting as you, me and most people think such things might be.
In fact, they could actually help cut the number of real child porn movies being produced.