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Age of cigarettes and knives going up to 18
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What do you think about this?
It's going up next year but Asda (where i work) are bringing it in next month.
It's going up next year but Asda (where i work) are bringing it in next month.
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I don't think it'll make a damned bit of difference, but it would be nice if it did.
Aye, I agree here. But the government make WWAAAYYY to much cash for that to happen.
Yeah was wondering that myself.
The laws wont change much.
WTF?:eek: Encouraging you mum to break the law?
Yea, because my sister 'needed' them, and it was cruel to not let her have them. My sister was supposed to behave in return, completely the opposite of how it should be. You shouldn't give children rewards to try and coax them into doing good behaviour, they should do the good thing and then you reward them.
Mind you, a fair few of the social services people we've spoken to have been in trouble. It seems like a large portion of them are completely incompetent. One of them made my blood boil because she was slagging off my family to other families.
I think that was very wrong of the woman to suggest.
At her age i could have stopped smoking easy if i couldn't get any. Feeding the habit just means she will get more hooked.
Of course knifes will still end up on the street but i think it will help.
Theres no point in raising the smoking age. Kids will still smoke.
Yea thats what I thought.
My sister is very much addicted now, and blames my mum.
I'm fortunate that I never want to smoke and I never will. I'm going to go to York university and look at ducks all day. :yes:
I hate smoking, the idea of smoking, everything. I don't think I could have a relationship with a smoker even if I liked them a lot, I associate it with so many bad things.
I tend to lean more towards the drugs lobbying on issues like this though. Legalisation and regulation is far better than banning things and letting an unregulated black market control supply. If you go to a school playground (11 - 14 year olds) you can sell cigarrettes for £1 each. I think the teachers must turn a blind eye, because I always see the same 'dealers' (of cannabis too) hanging around. I told my tutor at college and they said they have to make a formal report.
I think there is too much apathy in the system for any countermeasures to underage smoking drinking or whatever to work. People don't really seem to care. When I see a young person smoking in the street it makes my stomach turn. Some of my friends see me flinch like I've just swallowed something nasty and laugh about it. But I think that's because I hate smoking so much, nobody else seems to care.
Live and let live, I suppose. Or live and let die, more appropriately.
There are jobs that require specialist knives though. You know the insulation they put in your loft is about 25cm thick (not sure)? They use a long knife, like a carving knife, to cut through.
And also, whereever you restrict the sale or use of anything, there is always a black market to fill the void. Reducing demand is the most effective way to stop the supply of these items, because most 'dealers' are just ordinary people looking to make a quick buck. You can't stop them anymore than you can stop flies on a dog poo, because another 10 will land in the place of the first one.
Most knives used in stabbings ect are just kitchen knives so i don't think it would make much difference.
Exactally - if they are legal you can at least try to control the supply.
Make them illegal - you lose that, as they are all just sold illegaly.
I'm just glad I'm 18 in 18 days tbh.
To 403.
If its raised to 18, im pretty sure the 16-18yr old who works in the garage isnt either gonna care or notice that change in age, to him im just an extra sale, and anyway i'll just goto the chippy, for the price of a 20 deck in there i can get a 20 deck and a cheesy chip so im all set.
btw starting soon at tesco if you bring your own carrier bags in to re-use you can claim 1 green clubcard point! hot off the press that is. :razz:
depends how old you look. you're tall so this probably makes you look older. at least if they raise the age by 2 years a 14 year old would stand no chance of buying fags (off anyone with any sense to ask for id!).
also over 18's are more likely to carry ID.
Ah, exploitation, my favourite thing :yeees:.
My suggestion would be that retailers extend the 'Check 21' scheme currently used for alcohol to cigarettes and knives as well.