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P.S. Sorry about the long response. I guess I am just extremely passionate on the subject.
no actually you're very ignorant on the subject.........hezbollah was formed as a response to israel's invasion of lebanon in 1982 and they've been about ever since, hamas is a palestinian response to the atrocities israel have carried out in that country.........these groups dont just come out of nowhere and say yeah lets destroy israel, you need to look at the history behind it instead of just regurgitating the crap you hear on the news.....
Since, however, mainstream corporate media is fully and happily complicit with this status quo that helps keep the conflict - and thus their ratings and hefty advertising budgets - going, they refrain from reporting all but a fraction of Israel's Zionist-led ideological tyranny over a weaker indigenous people (and the ideology of the state founders IS very much the driving force behind the unbroken agenda of ethnocide and ethnic clearance aspired to by Israel thorough its continuous brutality). If they could do to the Palestinians what was done to European jews without showing the full extent of their equally racist, group superiority beliefs, they would have long ago.
Thus, being shrewd and calculating at the geo-political chess game they have connived for decades with Western powers to advance the aim of eliminating the Palestinians under the pretext of "self defense" when in fact it is the Palestinians at every stage which have been on the defensive against an obscenely well US-funded and armed neo-colonialist war machine.
This latest display of illegal trans-national war of aggression and crimes against humanity by Israel is not a compartmentalised event that arose from the quite legitimate capture of an Israeli soldier, but is wholly in line with the long dormant PNAC agenda of regional hegemonic domination, which was gleefully launched on 911 by criminal powermongers in Washington and Tel-Aviv.
This conflict was not started by Hezbollah nor by Hamas nor by the PLO but rather from prior to the founding of the state of Israel through organised Zionist terrorism and land seizures by force. A purge of more than 700,000 rightful inhabitants whose legacy has been erased to perpetuate the myth of a "land with a people for a people without a land" from then to the present day. Milosevic, who was extradited and put on trial for the same crime, didn't come close to the scope of Israel's barbarity in this regard.
Additionally, on the matter of this latest falsely reported pretext for Israel's intended escalation of aggression, the apologists might like to go educate themselves to the fact that only a day or two prior to the capture of the Israeli soldier in question, IDF forces abducted a Palestinian civilian doctor and his wife from their home and have kept them, along with thousands, imprisoned without charge. This was precisely the impetus for the more legitimate capture of the Israeli soldier and the damnd for release of Israel's many innocent victims.
When talking of cowards and terrorists you need look no further than the Israelis. They have had more than half a century to perfect their practices.
Expect to see further Israeli aggression against Syria in the near future, with even more indiscriminate attacks on urban civilian centers and fleeing families.
One day perhaps the sheeple who think they support democracy and goodness by making excuses for Israel will learn to apply consistency of principle and condemn them for the tyrannical fascists they have always been.
I congratulate Senor Miguel for putting those pictures up and showing us the awful truth about an awful war.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5207478.stm
*Awaits for the usual suspects to say the UN is biased against Israel or that entire areas of Beirut being completely destroyed are justified in any way* :rolleyes:
I could post a cartoon- or even better, a photograph- of examples of Israeli soldiers murdering children, such us the 10 year old schoolgirl who had an entire magazine emptied into her (the soldier was found not guilty of any wrongdoing by Israeli judges) or indeed the dozens of children murdered by the IDF when it decided to level entire neighbourhoods on purpose.
But I wouldn't want to lower myself to your level.
That you don't appear to be capable to even recognise or admit deliberate murder of innocent men, women and children by the war criminal cunts the IDF are doesn't show you in very good light.
At all.
that's a very simplistic view of the situation, besides which we're not talking about palestine we're talking about lebanon, what exactly have they done to deserve this?
Have you been living under a rock all your life or something?
Well since the picture that everyone was looking at about the two types of soldiers showed and said clearly it was a palestinian soldier not a lebonese soldier i took it to mean palestine. Surely you looked at the picture right above my post that everone was using in quotes?
Would you care to give us your explanation for that, if it's not to kill and terrorise innocent civilians?
the pictures of destruction aren't peoples homes and lives then?
So, maybe Israel isn't deliberately targeting entire neighbourhoods. But whatever they are doing, let's not forget at least 340 Lebanese are now dead thanks to this.
fair enough yeah i did see it, but it wouldn't be the first time mat's tried to derail a thread with a stupid irrelevant post because maybe he's not so comfortable with the truth........so what do you think of the israel/lebanon situation then?
We've been here before. You're demonstratably wrong. Get over it.
Odd suggestion, maybe, but what else would convince him?
whatever the israelies are doing, it isnt sound military tactics, its bullyboy behaviour to 'weaker' regions that is only going to get these private militias more members
Israel does not seek the death of civilians. It seeks the destruction of Hizbollah. Therefore it is not deliberately targeting civilians. The blame for civilian deaths lies at Hizbollahs door, not Israels.
Then perhaps more application of the term "resistance fighter" would be seen in threads like this, by the rationally-minded at any rate.
Otherwise, there remains no moral justification whatsoever for "we the people" to rise up against tyranny and rightfully cast it down by force. By today's apparent standard and certainly by its one-sided and indiscriminate use of the term, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and the rest would be deemed "terrorists".
So too, like it or not, should the valiant resistance fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto against those who sought to eliminate them. Israel's ethnocidal agenda and actions since before its official founding to the present are no different in principle.
Bollocks and you know it. The IDF targets civilians, it shoots kids in the head for throwing stones.