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Do you also treat a government that chooses to terrrorise, bomb and kill thousands of innocent civilians as terrorist, or is the Israeli government immune from your judgement?
I see it as depending it's self from the indefensiveable in that region. Maybe if the terrorist organisation were to stop it's attack on Israel, then israel would have no case.
Read the news reports. The immense majority of deaths have been innocent civilians.
And that's because Israel is bombing for the hell of it, as retaliation. The bombings have nothing to do with a military operation designed to free the soldiers. It's to do with blackmailing and applying pressure. And this, the Israeli PM himself has happily admitted several times.
So they're saying "we'll keep killing innnocent people until you release our soldiers".
Only murdering state terrorist scumbags do such things.
A good example is the BBC. Pro-zionists actually claim the BBC is biased against Israel (LOL x 94,000,000).
Israel has been caught lying a million times before. Like when it said it hadn't shelled those Palestinians enjoying a day out on the beach. Like when it said it hadn't meant to shoot that British peace protester in the head. Etc etc etc.
Of course Israel is targetting civilians. It's using large high explosive bombs that take down entire buildings and kill entire families because it says one 'terrorist' lives there. It bombs villages and kills innocent women and children because it says terrorist might be in hiding 'somehwere' within the village.
It's deliberate murder, pure and simple.
Remember Palestinians have targetted Israelis civilians and actually claimed they wanted to kill them. Israel doesn't say it intends to kill innocents whereas the terrorists do.
Both sides are responsible for hideous crimes. But I put a far bigger share of the blame on Israel. At the end of the day they are the ones illegally occupying parts of Palestine, Syria and Lebanon for decades. And they are the ones with an unmatched, gigantic military which they use to bomb cities and airports in other nations hundreds of miles away from them.
It has been tearing it's people out of the Gaza strip too. It has been protecting it's boarders using walls. All peaceful measures.... what does the Islamists do to thank them? Suicide bombs, firing rockets, kidnappings etc.
When are they going to learn that israel will protect her self against these if they continue to use violence as a means of achieveing their aim?
Israel has a right to protect herself when countries/organisations fail to recognise her.
Israel has never called for the destruction of another copuntry... yet the Palestinian government (Hamas) does not recognise a Israel, groups in Syria and Lebanon have similar views. Infact, does any Islamic country in the Mid East reccognise Israel? I wonder why. :rolleyes:
Like I said before, if the terrorist groups or the Lebanon government cared about civilians they would do the right thing and hand over the troops.
israel is ...illegaly occupying another countries land ...it's most fertile and arable land.
do you not expect people to fight to get that land back?
israel have now destroyed power stations which leave hundreds of thousands of civilians without power ...water ...sewage treatment.
of course the ...islamists as you like to call them ...want there land back and will kill to get it back.
what would you do?
in fighting israel ...the kidnap of three soldiers is not on a par with the mass death and destruction that israel is inflicing.
The Israeli army routinely shoots children and civilians.
You are though with your unquestioning support of Israel.
Hizbollah want the return of their men who were originally kidnapped by Israeli soldiers from Lebanon.
What are you on about?
...yet Israel does target and kill innocents.
I was really interested in this debate at first but now i cannot even be bothered to read through it anymore.
Israel is in the process of handing back Gaza... remember when it forced Israelis our of their homes for the Palestinians? What does Israel get to say thank you? More terror, so they punish thsoe responsible and work tpo make Israel more secure.
Israel cmpletely withdarwn from Lebanon in 2000..... what does the terrorists do? Kidnapp Israeli soilders... I wonder if Hamas or Iran have anything to do with this too? :rolleyes:
Therefore Israel has a right to protect her self!!!
That is war for you. If Lebanon authorities or the terrorists gave a shite about their people, then they would hand back the soildiers, Israel would stop the attacks. Bravo.
Do they really want their land back?
I don't think they do... they want to terrorise, they want the whole of Middle east Islamic and under the Sharia Law. That is what these terrorists want. Hence they do not recognise Israel and they never will.
If they wanted land back, they would call a ceasefire, end the violence and terrorism, start supporting diplomatic measures, Israel would finally pull out, problem solved.