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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote:
    Luke thinks he isnt being racist by thinking its ok to force muslims into a single "acceptable" white european culture
    Err Yeah sure.:crazyeyes
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Err Yeah sure.:crazyeyes

    Did you fancy explaining how we can become a single culture?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Er... that's what you were advocating earlier when you said you would like to get rid of multiculturalism.

    That's why I asked you what do you think multiculturalism actually means.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Did you fancy explaining how we can become a single culture?
    Why? I never once said that.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Er... that's what you were advocating earlier when you said you would like to get rid of multiculturalism.

    That's why I asked you what do you think multiculturalism actually means.
    As far as I know - it's where all cultures are celebrated instead of one. BUT... multicultralism in practise has failed. Other cultures in this country seem to be more important that the countries own.

    I prefer theU.S styleof culture.

    U.S First, you're origon second.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Why? I never once said that.

    Now I'm completely lost, you want to get rid of multiculturalism, but you dont want to replace it with a single culture, what do you want?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    As far as I know - it's where all cultures are celebrated instead of one. BUT... multicultralism in practise has failed. Other cultures in this country seem to be more important that the countries own.
    Do they really?

    Yeah right.

    Any examples?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    I prefer theU.S style of culture.

    U.S First, you're origon second.

    I presume you have traveled extensively in the US then? What advantages do you think their patriotism has?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Now I'm completely lost, you want to get rid of multiculturalism, but you dont want to replace it with a single culture, what do you want?
    I want this country to come first, that's what I want. National pride, instead of pride in another country/culture.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    He's not right about the US either anyway. There is as much multiculturalism in the US as there is here. And different communities living alonside each other (or 'ghettoes' as Luke prefers to call them).
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Do they really?

    Yeah right.

    Any examples?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/faith/communities/index.shtml Have a lookat that.

    Nothing wrong withit but it misses something.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    I presume you have traveled extensively in the US then? What advantages do you think their patriotism has?
    No I haven't.

    They're all united as one, instead of at each others throats. Not exactly but somewhat more than this country.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    I want this country to come first, that's what I want. National pride, instead of pride in another country/culture.

    A) - Why, what actual good does it do in the US?
    B) - How should we do this?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    How is that 'giving more importance to other cultures'?

    Is St. Patrick's Day 365 days a year? Or 1?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    No I haven't.

    They're all united as one, instead of at each others throats. Not exactly but somewhat more than this country.

    Dont believe the hype, the US is just as fractured, seperated and disperate as the UK. In certain areas much more seperated than here.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    He's not right about the US either anyway. There is as much multiculturalism in the US as there is here. And different communities living alonside each other (or 'ghettoes' as Luke prefers to call them).
    There are ghettosin Stoke too, where you'd never believe it was England.

    There maybe multicultralism the US but the US comes first. I wouldn't have aproblem with it if we were all at least united under being British first.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Dont believe the hype, the US is just as fractured, seperated and disperate as the UK. In certain areas much more seperated than here.
    Evidence?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    How is that 'giving more importance to other cultures'?

    Is St. Patrick's Day 365 days a year? Or 1?
    No It isn't but there is so much fuss over it, no fuss is made over my own countries, infact it is claimed to be racist at times by idiots.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    No It isn't but there is so much fuss over it, no fuss is made over my own countries, infact it is claimed to be racist at times by idiots.

    You are starting to make less and less sense
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Evidence?

    Just off the top of my head I'll use Chicago as an example, in the centre you get rich flats and so on, largely only white. Go to the south or to Gary and its virtually uniformally black and poor. The same applies in Detroit.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No surprise when there's people like you demanding everyone should be assimiliated into 'British culture'.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    No It isn't but there is so much fuss over it, no fuss is made over my own countries, infact it is claimed to be racist at times by idiots.
    As if St. Patricks day in this country is about anything other than Guinness wanting to increase their sales tenfold.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    No surprise when there's people like you demanding everyone should be assimiliated into 'British culture'.
    that should come first yes.

    You never wantto liisten howpeoplelike meare angry that peopleare blowing them selves up... how does thatmake me feel?

    No You ask muslims or anyone else.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What the fuck are you talking about?

    British people have been asked non stop for the last year, countless fucking times, what thought about 7/7.

    Yet you choose to ignore it and complain when a survey appears asking other groups.

    And you moan if people say you're trolling...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Well the liberals claiming that the government was hysterical about a UK threat from terrorism have now been proven wrong.

    Except of course that, even last year, you were sixty times more likely to be killed in a road accident.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    What the fuck are you talking about?

    British people have been asked non stop for the last year, countless fucking times, what thought about 7/7.

    Yet you choose to ignore it and complain when a survey appears asking other groups.

    And you moan if people say you're trolling...
    Don't you think the poll the other day of muslim attitudes is concerning?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    You never want to listen how people like me are angry that people are blowing them selves up... how does that make me feel?

    No You ask muslims or anyone else.

    But they do ask normal people, I saw a vox pop in the paper only a few days ago looking back over the past year and how they feel things have changed since the bombings.

    You are right though, the media does tend to ask Muslims, thats because the bombers came from that community and they want to try and understand why. Which is something you dont seem to want to do.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Don't you think the poll the other day of muslim attitudes is concerning?

    Frankly I largely ignore polls, they can be set up in a way to get virtually any result you want.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Don't you think the poll the other day of muslim attitudes is concerning?

    LOL... Straight from the Book of Troll. When the going gets tough, change the subject.

    I'll ask you again: why do you say other cultures are given preference because there has been a survey asking Muslims, when you know very well that there have been thousands of interviews, surveys and articles in the last 12 months asking all of us?

    Time to rectract your earlier comments.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    You are right though, the media does tend to ask Muslims, thats because the bombers came from that community and they want to try and understand why. Which is something you dont seem to want to do.
    When the police seem to concentrate more on the muslim community it's branded racist... yet the bombers are muslim.
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